KOSH [Kommunity Orientated Software Hardware]

Weekly Summary

Week Commencing: 22nd May 1999

Number: 022

Mailing List: kosh-general

In the mailing list this week, the following items were discussed. Please do
not email the scribe regarding any of these topics, it is not his job to answer
these questions but merely to report  the topics of conversation. If you have
any queries about this summary, please email ben@kosh.net, stating the Summary
Number, and Mailing List Name, and he will try to answer your queries.


Before I start this summary it is probably worth noting that despite the
shorter length of summaries of the General List these days it does not mean
that KOSH is disappearing. A lot of traffic on particular issues has moved to
other KOSH lists and the KOSH Working Groups are doing exactly that...working.

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a)

Subject: Succeeding with KOSH

Summary of debate: Following an article on an URL about installing and using
                   Windows 2000 beta the following pointers to help KOSH
                   succeed were noted:

                   1) KOSH must be simple to install and work first time,

                   2) It should not be necessary to reboot the machine
                   constantly during installation for KOSH to work,

                   3) If KOSH Beta states that it supports a certain piece of
                   hardware then when installed in should actually do so,

                   4) It should not take days to set the system up
                   satisfactorily... and it should not be possible to kill the
                   system with one simple action - if something drastic did
                   happen there should be an "undo" feature (perhaps coded
                   somehow to undo a crash),

                   5) KOSH should not gobble large amounts of memory for no
                   apparent reason,

                   Despite this it looks like Windows 2000 may have some good
                   ideas that could form the basis for a few features in KOSH.


b)

Subject: Why would someone use KOSH?

Summary of debate: Why did so many people jump to Linux instead of BSD? Why
                   would someone want to use KOSH? - Perhaps because there's
                   not a freely available Be type of system available yet? It
                   may well be a case of looking at the advantages KOSH would
                   offer over other solutions.

                   The OS is pretty much immaterial to most casual computer
                   purchasers - we either have to offer complete solutions with
                   with tempting hardware or software applications that can
                   rival popular platforms, or perhaps raise the awareness of
                   what the OS is and how it defines the base level of
                   performance for a given system. Demonstrating KOSH and
                   various other OSses at a show could be one way to achieve
                   this.


c)

Subject: Phase-state Low Electron-number Drive Memory

Summary of debate: The above (PLEDM RAM) is being investigated by the
                   Hitachi-Cambridge Laboratory as a new storage mechanism
                   which is basically a non-volatile memory chip with two to
                   one thousand times the capacity or regular, volatile memory.
                   (New Scientist, UK)
                   KOSH should be more suited than any other "OSH" to adapt
                   elegantly to any such future technology.


d)

Subject: 3D spreadsheet (and other data) manipulation

Summary of debate: Suggested that KOSH has some inbuilt way to easily and
                   fluidly manipulate 3d data sets (x,y,z)


e)

Subject: KOSH Computing Noticeboard

Summary of debate: It was suggested that the KOSH website could host a general
                   computing help section for KOSHans. Greg as current site
                   admin of the KOSH mirror site agreed with this if someone
                   else would like to help maintain such a section.

                   Such a section on the URL could promote KOSH and act as an
                   introduction to the project. Questions to the noticeboard
                   would not necessarily have to be about KOSH - things
                   discussed about other systems would possibly give us ideas
                   for KOSH (things to do and not to do).

                   If such a section could be dynamic with feedback it would be
                   even more productive. When the site goes back to
                   http://www.kosh.net it could all be automated with scripts.
                   At the moment it would have to be done by hand which would
                   take a lot of effort - and understandably a number of people
                   should be involved in setting it up and running it in this
                   case.

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OLGA_v1-2.lha        comm/misc   94K+Olga is software for using with OLITEC S
Packet-Point.lha     comm/misc  200K+Point programme for Packet-Radio NOW FRE
smodem.lha           comm/misc   33K+Bi-dir xfer protocol w/ chat, Amiga rev5
FreedomGer.lha       comm/net    10K+German Catalogs for FreedomCall V1.12
ftpchmod.lha         comm/tcp     4K+Set permissions on remote files
ukx_outl.lha         demo/aga   1.9M+Outlander - Ukonx (Volcanic 98)
ubbinstall.lha       dev/basic   10K+Fixed install script for Blitz 2 (from U
SpeedTests.lha       dev/e       18K+How to optimize in E
unsqsh.lha           dev/misc     4K+Portable unpack source for XPK-SQSH
amiuserlist.lha      docs/lists  12K+German Amiga User List
CHTM0699.lha         docs/lists 112K+CoNnEcTiOnS: June 1999 - Monthly UK BBS 
CNCT0699.lha         docs/lists  79K+CoNnEcTiOnS: June 1999 - Monthly UK BBS 
ukbbslst8.txt        docs/lists 117K+List of UK BBSes - Version 8 - June 1999
Aakt0699GFX.lha      docs/mags  133K+AMIGA aktuell - German infotainment maga
Aakt0699GUIDE.lha    docs/mags   99K+AMIGA aktuell - German infotainment maga
FoundationDKCa.lha   game/data    3K+Alternative Danish Catalog V1.31
wiz2.lha             game/jump  131K+Follow-up to WiZiO - platform game
LegendofElves.lha    game/role  959K+Graphic Adventure (like Monkey Island)
startrekupd.lha      game/think 656K+Update of -Star Trek- fixes some bugs
JPEG-Box.lha         gfx/conv   210K+JPEG generator for WWW graphics V4.12 (6
PNG-Box.lha          gfx/conv   224K+PNG generator for WWW graphics V4.12 (68
SkinCrop02.lha       gfx/ifx      4K+Easy AmigaAMP Skin creation script for I
SkinCrop03.lha       gfx/ifx      5K+Easy AmigaAMP Skin creation script for I
PSX-MCTool.lha       hard/hack  105K+Use Playstation Memcard with Amiga (v0.0
ICSProfiles.lha      hard/misc  177K+V2 of the Scanner Profiles for ICS V1.0x
imdbDiff990521.lha   misc/imdb  235K+Diffs for the Internet MovieDatabase
AmiTarot.lha         misc/misc   31K+Tarot card reader program v1.60
kmfbrain.lha         mods/jungl 198K+Kill my fuckin BRAIN!!! (new Optik .XM s
33228.lha            mods/med   107K+Music module.Format: MED (MED v5.0,MED v
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Bee.lha              mods/med    15K+Music module.Format: MED (MED v5.0,MED v
ClinicDeath.lha      mods/med    91K+Music module.Format: MED (MED v5.0,MED v
Cybernoid.lha        mods/med    71K+Music module.Format: MED (MED v5.0,MED v
CyrnoxTheBeast.lha   mods/med   195K+Music module.Format: MED (MED v5.0,MED v
Defect.lha           mods/med   108K+Music module.Format: MED (MED v5.0,MED v
DepthOfCosmos.lha    mods/med   178K+Music module.Format: MED (MED v5.0,MED v
Dffd.lha             mods/med    25K+Music module.Format: MED (MED v5.0,MED v
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Dreambeing.jpg       pix/art     71K+Some Imagine/PPaint/Photogenics made pix
FinalFrontier.jpg    pix/mark   274K+Enterprise A over a strange planet
Summernight.lha      pix/misc   356K+[ANCOR] two new characters
YAM_DockIcons.lha    pix/mwb     21K+MWB-DockIcons for YAM.
ami1111_moa.jpg      pix/trace   86K+800x600 JPG of  Amiga 1111
fenstzim_moa.jpg     pix/trace   93K+800x600 JPG of a cool room
Beatrice981215.jpg   pix/wb     105K+My Beautiful Beatrice Workbench, just se
ShivaWB.lha          pix/wb     664K+I think this is very cool :)
WBFontProp.lha       text/font    2K+GOOD proportional replacement for Topaz 
LZXRepacker173.lha   util/arc     7K+Repack LHA/ARJ/ZIP/RAR/HA/TAR/TGZ to LZX
htmluploader.lha     util/batch   2K+Upload changed html pages/other files
MirrorCopy.lha       util/cli    18K+Create/maintain exact copy of dir (V1.2)
VisGuiGer.lha        util/misc    2K+German Catalog for VisualGuide V2.71
VisualGuide271.lha   util/misc   20K+Make filelist in AmigaGuide format.
EqFiles.lha          util/rexx   20K+Find all duplicates in any set of files
Now2Beat.lha         util/rexx    1K+Converts current time to Internet "beat"
SavInstaller.lha     util/sys   212K+C= Installer replacement (June 1, 1999)
SetDST.lha           util/time   50K+Adjusts time for Daylight Saving Time

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GolemBetaDemo.lha    biz/demo   381K+0.81 - Business soft for firms (PL only)
FondsCalc.lha        biz/misc    14K+Calculation for money makers
CrossDOS704.lha      biz/patch   15K+Patches CrossDOS 7.00 - 7.03 -> 7.04
1ooCJst1.lha         comm/cnet   24K+1oo% C/Justice v1.00 - faker/rewarder
Hurl.lha             comm/mail   27K+The Ultimate URL integrator for TCP Clie
YAM20p7_HU.lha       comm/mail   23K+Unofficial hungarian YAM2.07 translation
YAM2MM15.lha         comm/mail   78K+MailMerging program for YAM v2+
dvbcontrol.lha       comm/misc  134K+V0.71 D-Box/Mediamaster Settings Editor
FreedomGer.lha       comm/net    10K+German Catalogs for FreedomCall V1.12
newscoaster.lha      comm/news   52K+Offline Newsreader (BETA release)
AmiVNC.lha           comm/tcp   119K+Experimental VNC server for Amiga w/C so
HTTPResume_Per.lha   comm/www     5K+Persian localization for HTTPResume v1.6
HTTPResume_Por.lha   comm/www    22K+Portuguese localization for HTTPResume v
gp-4k.lha            demo/intro   5K+4k-Intro from GENESIS PROJECT
gp-crack.lha         demo/intro  71K+Some 'Crack'-Intros from GENESIS PROJECT
gp-inter.lha         demo/intro  57K+'Interlace'-Intro from GENESIS PROJECT
gp-vinta.lha         demo/sound 1.1M+'Vintage'-Musicdisk from GENESIS PROJECT
OrpheusV1_0.lha      dev/basic   40K+AGA copper creator for BlitzBasic2
TRSaferPtch.lha      dev/debug   10K+Safer Setfunctions Debug Tools
FlexCat.lha          dev/misc   102K+2.3 - Flexible catalogs (C, Asm, Oberon,
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FlexCat_CatSrc.lha   dev/misc   118K+2.3 - #?.c(d|t) and #?.texinfo files
FlexCat_Src.lha      dev/misc    28K+2.3 - FlexCat source files
FusionV1_0.lha       dev/misc   222K+AGA palette manipulation & editing
ACNews_11.lha        docs/mags   57K+E-zine focused on Amiga News: #11-May 99
F1GP_1999.lha        game/data    8K+1999 F1 season data for F1GP-Ed (30-May-
BirdsOfPreyPch.lha   game/patch 458K+Birds of Prey version 1.1 update patch
trance.lha           mods/jungl 196K+Trance da worldzz, drum and bass module 
GMP-G.lha            mus/midi   110K+GUI for GMPlay V1.3
XGToolset.lha        mus/midi   323K+Bars&PipesToolset edit YAMAHA XG-Devices
AF-MX-700-icon.lha   pix/nicon    9K+FujiFilm MX-700 newicon *nice!*
PatRafter.jpg        pix/sport  164K+Pat Rafter not winning Rome Tennis Int. 
SRename.lha          util/cli    30K+Advanced rename/renumber CLI program.
WBLaunch.lha         util/cli     3K+Simulate WB startup from Shell
Ungeek.lha           util/crypt  24K+Decodes geekcode blocks
PoolMem.lha          util/sys    57K+Memory defragmentizer/AllocP superset
backclock.lha        util/time   37K+Beautiful Transparent clock for Workbenc
ToolMenu.lha         util/wb      7K+Run Progs from WB menu, like Apple Menu
WB-Tidy.lha          util/wb     33K+Tidy up your Workbench windows