31.Dec.2018
Alexander Fritsch, selco (ANF)
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Speech synthesis: SAM 1.1
The Amiga port of Sebastian Macke's C-reimplementation of the well-known C64 speech synthesizer SAM (Software Automatic Mouth) now can be found on Aminet. SAM runs on all Amigas and supports sound output via the audio or ahi.device as well as in a WAV-File.
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31.Dec.2018
Mike Battilana (E-Mail)
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Cloanto: Amiga Forever 8 and C64 Forever 8
Cloanto has released version 8 of its emulator distributionen "Amiga Forever" and "C64 Forever". The most important new features are "virtual keyboards" for the Amiga emulator, the option to move the cursor of 8-Bit computers with the mouse as well as a "fullscreen menu" for all Emulators which makes available the most important options even in fullscreen mode. Additionally the content of the Windows clipboard now can be also inserted in the emulator.
The second part of the press release Mike Battilana (Cloanto) uses to emphasize his determination for preserving the Amiga heritage, (quote): "I remain personally engaged in exploring possible futures involving a nonprofit and/or foundation, open source, and other scenarios that could best help the cause of Commodore/Amiga preservation and support."
Cloanto's full press release:
December 31, 2018 - Cloanto released today version 8 of Amiga Forever and C64 Forever, the official Commodore/Amiga preservation, emulation and support suites for Windows.
Once again, the new editions are the result of 18 months of development since the previous major version, and now encompass more than 600K lines of code written by Cloanto, seamlessly integrating with a collaborative effort of emulation plugins and content preservation.
"Virtual machines, virtual keyboards, virtual joysticks, virtual mice... real enjoyment! Whether you always wanted to move a PET/CBM text cursor with a click, or pop up an accurate and fully reconfigurable onscreen keyboard for Amiga and 8-bit systems, this release has it all," said Cloanto's Mike Battilana.
Work on the input front, which in version 7 had a focus on physical and virtual game controllers, was continued in version 8 by revamping existing features and adding virtual mouse and keyboard functionality that has no par in other emulation environments. In order to achieve an accurate implementation of the widest set of Commodore/Amiga systems, more than once we had to ask a collector to open one of their rare machines to confirm some internals. Former Commodore engineers graciously assisted with details that only they could know. When the mouse is used to position an 8-bit cursor, or multiple keys are pressed or tapped on a popup keyboard, or the Amiga keyboard language is changed at runtime in the Input Prefs and propagates up into the emulation and authoring side, the results are both historically accurate and surprisingly seamless in their modern usability.
The deep connections between Windows and CBM/Amiga ROM internals on the input front took several months to craft, yet are easy to use. The same is true for the new fullscreen emulation controls, which required the creation of a graphical user interface with menus and buttons that could be used with the mouse or keyboard as well as with game controllers, at a low level where this is not provided by Windows.
As part of its "preservation done right" commitment, Cloanto entered into agreements with Stanford University Libraries, the German National Library (Deutsche Nationalbibliothek, DNB) and other cultural and preservation institutions. These collaborations are spontaneous, and Cloanto does not receive payments or funding. Ongoing efforts also include a "kiosk mode" emulation frontend for museums.
"Working on projects like Amiga Forever and C64 Forever and remaining in touch with our community has allowed us to keep nourishing the sentiments of passion, beauty, excellence and friendship that have accompanied this journey since the 1980s. We also learned how continuing this longstanding endeavor brings with it some mostly thankless tasks such as sorting out the occasional legal doubt and standing up for the truth. In working hard to research rights and respect rules, Cloanto has become a 'reluctant torchbearer' of something bigger and of larger interest than we could ever have imagined to be involved with more than 30 years ago. Fortunately, as an independent entity, Cloanto does not lack the courage or the ability to change, or to hand over.
"Continuing on the discourse that was first outlined at cloanto.org a few years ago," said Mike, "I remain personally engaged in exploring possible futures involving a nonprofit and/or foundation, open source, and other scenarios that could best help the cause of Commodore/Amiga preservation and support. As in the past, during 2019 I plan to attend events like Amiga Ireland, AmiWest in Sacramento and Amiga34 Germany. I again look forward to meeting old and new friends and to promote consultations on this important topic."
Amiga Forever 8 is available now in three editions:
- Value Edition (downloadable installer)
- Plus Edition (downloadable installer with option to build DVD ISO image)
- Premium Edition (downloadable Plus Edition, plus boxed software and additional videos on 3 DVDs)
C64 Forever 8 is available now in three editions:
- Free Express Edition (feature-limited version)
- Downloadable Plus Edition (downloadable installer with option to build CD ISO image)
- Boxed Plus Edition (downloadable Plus Edition, plus boxed CD)Both packages recognize and work with each other, with options to merge the different platforms into the same interface. Prices start from $9.95 (Value Edition, or special upgrade offers).
Both packages recognize and work with each other, with options to merge the different platforms into the same interface. Prices start from $9.95 (Value Edition, or special upgrade offers).
Visual Tours
Here are some suggestions to highlight specific version 8 features for YouTubers and other more visual friends:
- Virtual Keyboard - Open an Amiga emulation session like Workbench 3.X (in the Systems folder) and then use the keyboard menu at the bottom left of the playback window to open the Virtual Keyboard. Inside the emulation, open the Input Prefs and change the keyboard to a different language (e.g. German). Did you notice how the virtual keyboard on the Windows side also updated its layout? And still, it all keeps working with your unchanged physical PC keyboard, no matter what layout that one has. Then on closing the session you can choose whether to commit the keyboard layout change to the title configuration, or not.
- Virtual Mouse - Looking for something a bit more "retro"? Start an 8-bit title (e.g. a PET 2001, or 8032, or C64) from the Systems folder of C64 Forever, and use the mouse to move the text cursor around. If you ever spent a lot of time programming or writing on those systems, isn't this something you've been wanting to do for almost 40 years?
- Fullscreen Controls - Start or switch any Amiga or 8-bit emulation session to fullscreen (use the button in the top row of the playback window), then hold down the Escape key for one second to open the new fullscreen controls. These can be selected with the mouse, with the keyboard, or with the same controllers you are using to play. At last, you can swap disks, pause, resume, save, etc., without needing to leave your favorite screen mode and controls.
- Discord Status - Do you use Discord? "Now playing" activity sharing can be enabled under Tools/Options/Social.
- Type Clipboard Text - Hello World? Happy $7E3? Here is something simple, but fun to watch if you would like to paste a message or a few lines of code: use the keyboard menu at the bottom left of the playback window to paste the content of the Windows text clipboard. Works with any Amiga or 8-bit system.
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30.Dec.2018
Szaman/eXec.pl (ANF)
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Exec.pl: The summary of Amiga year 2018
The summary of Amiga year 2018 in a "positive" way: At the title link, Szymon Żyła wrote about the eight most important positive things which have happened during 2018. (snx)
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30.Dec.2018
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Aminet-Uploads until 29.12.2018
The following archives have been added to Aminet until December 29th, 2018:
AmiX500.lha comm/amiex 934K 68k AmiExpress BBS system redevel...
libpng1636_a68k.lha dev/lib 1.6M 68k Lib for reading/writing PNG
libpng1636_aros.lha dev/lib 1.9M x86 Lib for reading/writing PNG
MCC_NList-0.125.lha dev/mui 2.0M MOS NList custom classes for MUI
WormWars-AROS.zip game/actio 705K x86 Advanced snake game
MCE.lha game/edit 2.0M 68k Multi-game Character Editor
MCE-OS4.lha game/edit 2.5M OS4 Multi-game Character Editor
webptools101_a68k.lha gfx/conv 4.3M 68k encode/decode images in WebP ...
webptools101_aros.lha gfx/conv 8.0M x86 encode/decode images in WebP ...
Intro-Kreation-001_mo... gfx/show 9.3M MOS Shows scroll texts w/ differe...
Intro-Kreation-001_OS... gfx/show 10M OS4 Shows scroll texts w/ differe...
HappyKids.lha mods/8voic 619K Happy Kids 5-ch Soft Pop-Rock...
ITFC.lha mods/8voic 112K In Time For Christmas 8-ch MM...
Pseudaxos_Xmas_Pack.lha mods/xm 2.6M New mods by Pseudaxos
CloverIcons.lha pix/icon 167K 68k Full 4C replacement set for S...
CloverIcons-XTRA.lha pix/icon 63K Some additional 4 Color icons
SetMap.lha util/cli 3K 68k Set keymap of console window
InstallerLG.i386-aros... util/sys 94K x86 Commodore Installer replacement
InstallerLG.ppc-morph... util/sys 124K MOS Commodore Installer replacement
InstallerLG.src.lha util/sys 1.6M Commodore Installer replacement
TRULS.lha util/wb 47K 68k Universal Installers for Syst...
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30.Dec.2018
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OS4Depot-Uploads until 29.12.2018
The following archives have been added to OS4Depot until December 29th, 2018:
reactive_crypto.lha dri/mis 175kb 4.1 Hashing classes for Reactive
barony.lha gam/rol 4Mb 4.1 3D, first-person roguelike.
frikingshark.lha gam/shm 114Mb 4.1 modern remake of flying shark
prototype.lha gam/shm 19Mb 4.1 modern remake of r-type
mce.lha gam/uti 2Mb 4.0 Multi-game Character Editor
dcraw.lha gra/con 3Mb 4.0 CLI converter for camera raw files
mcc_nlist.lha lib/mui 2Mb 4.0 NList custom classes for MUI
simplemail.lha net/ema 1Mb 4.0 E-Mail Client using MUI
videoclipper.lha vid/edi 427kb 4.0 Cut and/or join multiple format ...
simplesub.lha vid/mis 3Mb 4.0 Create, edit and encode .srt sub...
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30.Dec.2018
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AROS-Archives-Uploads until 29.12.2018
The following archives have been added to AROS-Archives until December 29th, 2018:
aspireosupdate.lha dev/mis 29Mb Update to AspireOS codename "Obi...
lodepaint_manual_full.zip doc/man 2Mb Manual for Lodepaint
freeciv-2.3.2.i386-aros.zip gam/str 46Mb Opensource game inspired to civi...
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30.Dec.2018
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MorphOS-Storage-Uploads until 29.12.2018
The following archives have been added to MorphOS-Storage until December 29th, 2018:
Iris_beta45.lha Email New email client suppor...
Wyrmsun_3.5.0.lha Games/Strategy Wyrmsun is an open-sour...
BallGameHD_0.9.3.lha Games/Think Colourfull Free Softwar...
CPUGauge_1.6.lha System/Ambient/Screenbar CPU load as gauge in sc...
DateTime_1.3.lha System/Ambient/Screenbar A screenbar clock and c...
MemoryGauge_1.5.lha System/Ambient/Screenbar Display memory usage as...
MouseCoords_1.2.lha System/Ambient/Screenbar Display Mouse coordinat...
MouseEyes_1.2.lha System/Ambient/Screenbar Displays Mouse Eyes in ...
PixelPicker_1.2.lha System/Ambient/Screenbar Display ARGB value of a...
TopTasks_1.2.lha System/Ambient/Screenbar Display Top Tasks in sc...
Uptime_1.2.lha System/Ambient/Screenbar Display Uptime in scree...
MCC_NList_0.125.lha System/MUI Classes NList custom classes fo...
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30.Dec.2018
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WHDLoad: New installers until 29.12.2018
Using WHDLoad, you can install games, scene demos and intros from cracking groups to your harddisk that were only working from floppy disks previously. The following installers have been added until December 29th, 2018:
(snx) (Translation: dr)
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30.Dec.2018
Amiga Future (Webseite)
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AmigaRemix: New songs added
AmigaRemix has made available new mixes of well-known soundtracks of Amiga games as MP3-files. Since our last news item, the following songs have been added:
- SuperFrog - World 4
- Cadaver - Theme
- Maupiti Island - Theme
- Unreal - Flight Level (regular mix)
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29.Dec.2018
amiganews.exec.pl (Webseite)
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Review: Workbench distribution AmiKit X 10.5.2
Under the title link Marcin Pianka has published his experiences with the Workbench distribution AmiKit X 10.5.2.
The distribution would consist of free components but for all those users who do not have the time collecting them together and configuring them, AmiKit X offers a solution. And if you want to save spare time and are not about to spend 30 Euro (at once) then you can test a previous version 8.5 (or the V9 for Mac OS X) for free.
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28.Dec.2018
Amigaworld.net (Forum)
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Event: Further pictures of this year's AmiWest
From 11. to 14. October 2018 in Sacramento the 20th AmiWest took place (amiga-news.de reported). Additional to the illustrated report of the trader AmigaKit, under the title link Robert Bernardo (Fresno Commodore User Group) also published some pictures.
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28.Dec.2018
Amiga.org (Forum)
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Lawsuit: Application for an interim injunction against Hyperion
In the legal dispute with Hyperion Entertainment (amiga-news.de reported), Amiga Inc., Itec, Amino and Cloanto now have applied for an interim injunction.
With the document (PDF file) Hyperion is supposed to be legally prohibted to sell AmigaOS 3.1.4. This application is based on the claimed break of the settlement agreement from 2009 by using the trademark AmigaOS and the Boing-Ball as well as by selling AmigaOS 3.1.4 including Hyperion's claim to be copyright holder. The involvement of Cloanto is based on its copyright on AmigaOS 3.1 and furthermore on signing of evidences 3 of the former agreement by Cloanto.
The application also confirms that the temporary stop of sales was based on a cease-and-desist letter. Only Hyperion's first service provider, Avangate, did respond but finally informed to continue saling the software as long as a preliminary injunction is not provided. According to conversations of Cloanto with third parties, Hyperion did ensure compensation to the service providers in case of legal actions.
With regard to Hyperion's rights it is said that in the claim in 2007 it was tried to assert section 2.07 of the OEM licence of 2001 which says that Hyperion is allowed to develop further AmigaOS 3.1 and to use its trademarks in case of the insolvency of Amiga Inc. The 2009 settlement agreement was only related to AmigaOS 4. As proof of evidence also Hyperion's own press release is used.
With regard to Cloanto it is said that one of the purposes of the settlement agreement has been to protect diverse rights acquired in 1994. Additional to the usage for the emulator Amiga Forever since 1997, Cloanto could use AmigaOS 1.1 to 3.0 on real Amigas since 1998 and AmigaOS 3.1 since 1999. In the years 2011 to 2016 Cloanto then among others acquired AmigaOS 3.1. The copyright for this version of the operating system the company already registered on 27. April 2007.
By breaking the settlement agreement and selling AmigaOS 3.1.4 financial losses were incurred but also a loss of reputation, the goodwill and of customers. Additionally on 30. November Cloanto was informed by one of its biggest trader that due to Hyperion's statement to the ownership on AmigaOS 3.1.4, Cloanto's AmigaOS-3.1 products are not sold any longer. In several countries the Cloanto's sales have collapsed.
Apart from the losses of Cloanto and the Amiga parties, the application for a temporary injunction is justified by the settlement agreement itself. Provided in paragraph 16, such an apllication is allowed without any proof of an actual loss. Besides, the majority of the sales volume of AmigaOS 3.1.4 was done in the first half of 2018 which generates an additional urgency.
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28.Dec.2018
Amiga Future (Webseite)
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Game launcher: X-bEnCh 1.1 Final Public Release
Jim Neray's X-bEnCH is a graphical user-interface with up to 640 colours (AGA; 128 on OCS/ECS-computers) which can replace the Workbench for launching WHDLoad-games and other applications and requires low hardware resources. An integrated command line as well as the file manager Xpl0rEr (video) are also available.
The final version 1.1 provides many bug fixes (e.g. for block sizes with more than 1024 Bytes), a lot more accurate memory detection method, playlists with up to 256 mods (limited to 100 before), support of scanning up to 4096 sub dirs inside one single dir and pattern filter for the audio playlists requester.
Download: xbench1.1f.lha (1 MB)
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28.Dec.2018
Amigaworld.net (Webseite)
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MorphOS: Updates for all #AmigaZeux screenbars
All #AmigaZeux screenbars have been updated improving stability and providing some new functions.
TopTasks.sbar V1.2
- Added a context menu to entries in the PopWindow Top10 list to break-C/D/E/F/ALL the selected task or to set its priority.
- Enabled zebra mode (stripes) for task list.
- Label was overwritten if text was centered or right aligned. Fixed.
- The Linefeed sneaked back in and got eliminated again (this time for good!). Thanks to jPV :-)
- Tasknames were truncated to the size in prefs. This of course only works well for fixed fonts. Removed truncation.
- Catalogs were copied to just locale:[language] and not locale:catalogs/. Fixed. You may want to delete the wrongly copied catalogs.
- Added french translation by Philippe 'OffseT' Rimauro.
- Prefs image/object handling was wrong and could lead to crashes. Fixed.
Download website
MouseCoords.sbar V1.2
- Clicking the MouseCoords in the screen title now opens a small window that gives information about the underlying window of the mouse pointer when being moved around. Try it :-)
- Added a "Distance Moved" window that shows some infos when clicking and holding LMB or MMB and an optional set of qualifiers and moving the mouse around. Threshold can be configured or switched off altogether.
- Labels were always printed bold. It's now possible to turn bold on/off.
- Catalogs were copied to just locale:[language] and not locale:catalogs/. Fixed. You may want to delete the wrongly copied catalogs.
- Added french translation by Philippe 'OffseT' Rimauro.
- Prefs image/object handling was wrong and could lead to crashes. Fixed.
Download website
PixelPicker.sbar V1.2
- Clipboard Hotkey only copied the contents of Ambient Screenbar's instance. Now works with multiple screens.
- Catalogs were copied to just locale:[language] and not locale:catalogs/. Fixed. You may want to delete the wrongly copied catalogs.
- Added french translation by Philippe 'OffseT' Rimauro.
- Prefs image/object handling was wrong and could lead to crashes. Fixed.
- Hotkey was freed twice and could lead to crashes. Fixed.
Download website
DateTime.sbar V1.3
- Label was overwritten with text if text was centered or right aligned. Fixed.
- Switching between Months/Years/Decades could lead to window size changes and resulted in graphical artifacts on the left side if using transition animations.
- Catalogs were copied to just locale:[language] and not locale:catalogs/. Fixed. You may want to delete the wrongly copied catalogs.
- Added french translation by Philippe 'OffseT' Rimauro.
- Prefs image/object handling was wrong and could lead to crashes. Fixed.
Download website
MouseEyes.sbar V1.2
- Changed default pathes of images used by this screenbar to a more MorphOS convenient style from SYS:Prefs/Presets/ to SYS:Data/Screenbar/
- Prefs icon is displayed again using MUIA_Screenbar_DisplayedImage.
- Added a small install script.
Download website
CPUGauge.sbar V1.6
- Label was overwritten if text was centered or right aligned. Fixed.
- The label now gets properly scaled down respecting configured top/bottom spacing.
- Changed default pathes of images used by this screenbar to a more MorphOS convenient style from SYS:Prefs/Presets/ to SYS:Data/Screenbar/
- Prefs icon is displayed again using MUIA_Screenbar_DisplayedImage.
- Added a small install script.
Download website
MemoryGauge.sbar V1.5
- Label was overwritten if text was centered or right aligned. Fixed.
- The label now gets properly scaled down respecting configured top/bottom spacing.
- Changed default pathes of images used by this screenbar to a more MorphOS convenient style from SYS:Prefs/Presets/ to SYS:Data/Screenbar/
- Prefs icon is displayed again using MUIA_Screenbar_DisplayedImage.
- Added a small install script.
Download website
Uptime.sbar V1.2
- Label was overwritten if text was centered or right aligned. Fixed.
- The label now gets properly scaled down respecting configured top/bottom spacing.
- Changed default pathes of images used by this screenbar to a more MorphOS convenient style from SYS:Prefs/Presets/ to SYS:Data/Screenbar/
- Prefs icon is displayed again using MUIA_Screenbar_DisplayedImage.
- Added a small install script.
Download website
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28.Dec.2018
Scene World Magazine (ANF)
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Video: Scene-World interview with John Romero (Doom, Quake, Wolfenstein 3D)
Under the title link a video interview with John Romero is available informing about his egoshooters as well as his next game Sigil. Doom for the Amiga also is mentioned.
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27.Dec.2018
Amiga Future (Webseite)
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PDF magazine: REV'n'GE 93 (Italian/English)
The PDF magazine REV'n'GE ("Retro Emulator Vision and Game") is available in Italian as well as in an English-language translation. REV'n'GE compares and reviews games on vintage computers.
Among others the latest issue includes articles about the Amiga games "Arena", "Atomic RoboKid", "Noddy’s Big Adventure", "Secret of Monkey Island","Starblade" and the multimedia CD-ROM "Advanced Military Systems".
Download websites:
Italian
English
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27.Dec.2018
Amiga Future (Webseite)
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E-Mail programm: SimpleMail 0.45
As usual on Christmas an update of the e-mail programm SimpleMail has been released for AmigaOS 3.x and AmigaOS 4. Version 0.45 provides reduced folder index memory usage, asynchonous index file loading, an updated Italian catalog by Samir Hawamdeh and many bug fixes.
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26.Dec.2018
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Jump'n Run: The Kiwi's Tale for CD32, AGA and ECS
"The Kiwi's Tale" written by Erik 'Earok' Hogan (video) was developed about 10 years ago for the PC and is meant to be a fan sequel of "The New Zealand Story". There is a version for the CD32 with CD-DA sound and versions for AGA and ECS, currently without background sound.
According to the author the game has the following features:
- Screen updates with 50hz, smooth eight-ways-scrolling, very big levels
- Duration like in commercial games
- 15 levels
- 2 weapons
- 3 flight devices
- 8 kind of enemies
- 2 final enemies
- Two players option: the second joystick controls the flight devices
- CD audio
- Support of joysticks with one or two fire buttons as well as CD32 joypad
- Hidden bonus game on disk
Although the author does not describe the game as very "polished", it is completed and in future he is only going to fix bugs. If somebody provided music in MOD format, he would add it to the AGA- und ECS ports. The game requires 2 Megabyte ChipRAM and at least a 68020 processor. Some additional FastRAM is recommended to smoothly play some particularly hectic parts of the game. The ECS port was done at last and therefore has not been extensively tested.
Controls:
- Fire: Fire button 1
- Jump: Fire button 2 or 'up'
- Leaving flight device: Keep pressing the fire button 2 or fire button and 'up'
- Pause: 'P' or 'Play' (CD32)
- Quit: 'Escape' or 'Forward'+'Reverse' (CD32)
A 'cheat' the developer also provides: If all levels are supposed to be accessible, in the map view you have to press the Space key for some seconds or the green button (joypad).
Download websites:
CD32
A1200
ECS (Experimental)
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25.Dec.2018
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Amiga-News wishes Merry Christmas - for the 20th time
Already for the 20th time the editorial staff of amiga-news.de wishes Merry Christmas to their readers - which probably nobody had guessed. But despite all disappointments and numerous prophecies of doom the Amiga survived another year in its niche - with new products, meetings and again about 800 Aminet uploads and almost 700 news items on amiga-news.de.
We wish you a wonderful and peaceful time which you could use for some Amiga projects or trying to play through Turrican - once again!
P.S.: During the next days we are going to celebrate our anniversary with a separate news item and a little competition.
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