Date:      Mon, 27 Sep 1999 11:55:39 +0200 (MET DST)
From:      jgeiss@muc.de (Johannes Geiss)
Subject:   Frust mit Amiga Inc.
To:        petra.struck@online-club.de

Sehr geehrter Herr Schmidt,

ich danke Ihnen für den entgültigen Todesstoss, den Sie unserem geliebten
Amiga gegeben haben. Ich sage bewusst "unseren", denn wo wäre der Amiga denn
ohne seinem harten Kern loyaler User, die seit Commodores Konkurs dem Amiga
treu die Stange halten? Jahrelang sind wir durch Dick und Dünn gegangen,
haben den höhnischen Tönen unzähliger PC-User getrotzt, glaubten an Amiga
und hielten an vorderster Front aus, um etwas zu ermöglichen was es in der
Computergeschichte noch nie gegeben hat: Das Überleben eines Unternehmens
nach einem, bzw. zwei Konkursen.

Leider wird dies offensichtlich nicht mehr wahr werden.

Amiga ist ein Computer, der freundlich zum Benutzer ist und sich nach den
Wünschen des Besitzers formen lässt. Das OS ist schlank, überschaubar
und verständlich. Ein Rechner, der auch mal Arbeit abnehmen kann und
für sich alleine läuft, ohne dass man ihm das Händchen halten muss.
Ein System eben, dass sich nicht in Uniformen quetscht, sondern von
jedem liebevoll verändert und an seine ganz persönlichen Wünsche
angepasst werden kann. In jedem Amiga findet man etwas Persönliches von
seinem Besitzer wieder.

Leider ist dieses System schon lange nicht mehr zeitgemäss und wir User
wünschen uns nichts mehr als neue Amigas (das sind Computer, die
funktionieren). Ja so einfach ist das. Wir wollen einfach nur neuere Amigas,
die eine bessere und schnellere Hardware (u.A. CPU, Grafik, Sound) haben.
Ist das so schwer zu begreifen? Haben wir User das nicht 1000 Mal auf allen
möglichen Versammlungen zum Ausdruck gegeben? Auf Versammlungen, Messen,
Meetings usw., bei denen wir keine Mühen und Kosten gescheut haben, um
mit Amiga Inc. im Dialog einen neuen Amiga wieder auferstehen zu lassen.
Petro stand (und hoffentlich steht noch immer) auf UNSERER Seite. Er hat
Amiga Inc. durch seine Anwesenheit vertreten und musste unseren Frust
aushalten, weil es schon zu lange keine Amigas mehr gibt. ER war sichtlich
bemüht darum, dass es mit Amiga aufwärts geht. Und ER hat auch begriffen,
dass Amiga Inc. deshalb existert, weil WIR Hard-Core-Amiga-Fans es einfach
nicht zulassen, dass der Amiga stirbt.

Und nun, nachdem wir Amiga so viele Jahre verteidigt haben, nachdem wir uns
von PC-Usern anhören mussten, dass wir doch alle komplette Idioten seien,
die einem veralteten System nacheifern, dass wir so vielen Versprechungen
seitens Amiga Inc. noch an ein Comeback des Amigas glauben... jetzt kommen Sie
daher und geben Amiga (und damit uns) den Todesstoss. Vielen Dank, dass ich
vor all den PC-Usern (daruter auch einige meiner Freunde) wie ein kompletter
Idiot dastehe. Selbst Linux-User (und auch deren Magazine) belächeln uns
jetzt nachsichtig. Das baut unwahrscheinlich auf, wenn man nach ca. 5 Jahren
einen Dolchstoss in den Rücken bekommt.

Für mich war's das dann nach 14 Jahren. Ich wende mich von Amiga ab, falls
nicht der MCC (oder etwas Vergleichbares) BALD kommt.

Ich habe Ihre "Executive Updates" gelesen und mir war klar, dass da jemand
den Text geschrieben (bzw. diktiert) hat, der von Amiga NICHT DIE GERINGSTE
AHNUNG hat und auch nicht begriffen hat, was Amiga-User sind. Wir (die
Amiga-User) sind KEINE Schafe, die sich von irgend jemanden sagen lassen
was sie zu WOLLEN HABEN (das sind doch meist die PC-User). Wir Amiga-User
WISSEN ganz genau was wir wollen.

Und damit es nochmal klar wird: Wir wollen Amiga-Computer! Und das sind
nicht nur Internet-Surf-Stationen.

Ihre abschliessenden Worte "Lang lebe Amiga" in Ihrem Executive Update
klingt wie ein höhnischer letzter Gruss an uns. Etwa so als wenn der
Henker dem Deliquenten in der Guillotine zum Abschied "Leb wohl" sagt.

Wie würden Sie sich fühlen, wenn Sie von einer Firma einen brandneuen
Videorekorder mit tollen neuen Features fieberhaft erwarten und plötzlich
sagen die, "wir werden keine Videorekorder mehr herstellen. Aber dafür tolle
neue Kühlschraenke."?

Wollen Sie anstatt eines Videorekorders einen Kühlschrank?

Ich will jedenfalls keine Internetkonsole. Ich will einen Computer.

Fazit: Ich empfehle Ihnen, nicht nochmal Hard-Core-Amiga-Usern (falls Sie
es noch nicht bemerkt haben: Ich bin einer) vorzuschreiben, was sie zu
wollen haben. Denn wir wissen besser als Sie, was wir wollen.


Ich hoffe, Ihnen damit etwas Klarheit über die Situation
Amiga Inc. <-> Amiga-Usern und unseren Frust gegeben zu haben.

MfG
Johannes Geiss

From:       Andreas Frank afrank@mediaspace.net
Reply-To:   afrank@mediaspace.net
To:         petra.struck@online-club.de
Date:       Sat, 25 Sep 1999 19:30:45 +0100
Subject:    AmigaOS 3.5 - Amiga News

Hallo,

Ich habe mir mal die neuesten Screenshots von OS3.5 angeschaut.
Offensichtlich hat man es immer noch nicht begriffen, daß ein normaler
Bildschirm eine Auflösung mit einem Seitenverhältnis von ca. 1:1 und nicht
2:1 hat (Die senkrechten Balken sind immer doppelt so dick wie die
waagrechten).
Mich würde schon mal interessieren, warum.
Interessiert das niemanden, daß das so besch... aussieht, oder merkt es nur
keiner?

Könntest Du diese Frage mal öffentlich in den AmigaNews stellen?

Gruß,
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Andreas Frank
EMail: afrank@mediaspace.net
Web: http://www.mediaspace.net
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Editor's Thoughts and Introduction:

 Our last issue carried the first statement from Amiga's new
President. There were probably some readers who thought our reaction
overly negative. That number may increase after reading his second
statement, below. However, most of our readers seem to feel as we do,
that with the latest moves at Amiga, there is no more future for an
Amiga we would recognize. At least, none with the company which
carries the name.
 While Mr. Schmidt talks of licensing others to make Amiga computers,
he doesn't make any references to maintaining the standards for
hardware and operating system within Amiga. He speaks only of the
specifications for the MCC itself. It's vital for such standards to be
maintained if there's to be any kind of an Amiga computer at all. This
is our main concern with recent events, not the fact that Amiga won't
make any computers themselves. Yes, that bothers us also, since they'd
indicated they would actually build some at least. However, the real
key is to ensure clone compatibility with a meaningful standard. So
far, what we're seeing gives us little hope for such control. And
pulling away from making any computers, which would provide a standard
for clones, is a very strong negative statement. Also, remember Amiga
OS 5 has disappeared from the Amiga web site. Folks, these are pretty
strong indications, and they don't indicate good things. If Amiga
proves to actually license and maintain meaningful standards for next
generation computers, then we'll reverse our opinion of them gladly,
and be happy to admit our misjudgement. We doubt we'll have to "eat
crow" though, to use an old American saying.
 We also find it disingenuous for Amiga to say that bringing the MCC
to market was beyond them. If so, buy stock in Dell and sell any you
have in Gateway. There certainly are risks, but the approach Amiga was
persuing would not be beyond Gateway, and only beyond Amiga if Gateway
chose to make it so. We suspect there were people within Gateway who
didn't see the worth, and did see the risks. This is common when a new
opportunity collides with a company that's lost the entrepreneurial
spirit and can't recapture it. Especially if there were pressure from
Microsoft, as has been alleged in some quarters.
 We feel it's still possible for Gateway/Amiga to come up with
something that will please the Amiga community down the road. We also
feel the odds are greatly against it. If the Amiga is to survive as a
computer platform, it probably is in the hands of the community. This
is a heady and heavy challenge. We hope the people trying to make this
work will succeed, and we stand ready to help them get the word out to
you as they go forward.
 There are many efforts being launched by the community. Besides the
"Phoenix Consortium" mentioned in last issue, there's AQUQ (a software
architecture whose name stood for Amiga QNX Uniform Architecture, at
least originally, and maybe still does), Amino (an Amiga like company
name being discussed by former Amiga Inc. employee Fleecy Moss), and
TAC (Team AMIGA Central). Despite requests for information to
individuals identified as participating in these groups, none of them
has responded to "Amiga Update" at this time. Some of the e-mail just
bounced from the addresses we found on mostly empty web sites. Other
e-mail went unresponded to. The reason for silence mentioned in the
few public statements made is that pieces aren't in place yet to
provide information properly, or that nothing is yet ready and there
will be no premature announcements. Both are good reasons, but the
situation does leave us unclear on who'll be doing what and what the
relationships among groups is. As the picture clarifies, we'll bring
you information. Well known Amigans such as Fleecy Moss and Bill
McEwan have their names associated with much of the activity. Fleecy
has given a long interview on some of what's underway. It can be found
at http://www.williams.demon.co.uk/seal/fleecyint2.html as I write
this.
 From where we sit, it's all very confused at the moment. Lots of
acronyms, lots of good intentions, too early for anything real or any
idea if there ever will be anything real. We do hope so. But we still
have the standards issue ...

TransMeta - No Betta' Than Gateway?

 Recently the CEO of TransMeta was quoted as saying there was never
any connection between the secretive company and Amiga. The name
TransMeta appeared at World of Amiga only because it was in the
background of a picture of Linus Torvalds, the inventor of Linux, who
works for TransMeta. Unfortunately for that story, there were many
Amigans watching, some of whom captured images of the presentation,
who will be happy to state the name was on the list of partners, not
in the background at all.
 Maybe we're better off without TransMeta, whatever they're doing. One
thing we don't need more of is "untruths".
 We hope you enjoy this issue.
 Brad Webb,
 Editor
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E-mail to the E-ditor:

10 Sep 1999
Hello Brad,

 I am the manager for the San Francisco State Univ. Residential
Network (ResNet). We have ~1500 kids in our networked dorms. Each
semester I get asked by kids and their parents what computer should
they get. Well guess what, after two years of suggesting Gateway
computers...All of a sudden my opinion has changed...Gateway?!...No, I
think you would be much happier with a Dell :)
                                     Kind Regards,

                                    Harry
==
Harry,
 Thanks very much for the note and permission to print it. To the
readers: Harry's note is in response to our last issue in which I
mentioned I expected a backlash against Gateway that could be
surprising to them because many Amigans are involved professionally
in the IT industry in one way or another. I'm sure Harry isn't alone
in his response and I must admit it brought a smile to my face.
 Brad

~~~~~~
16 Sep 1999
Dear Brad,

 The one thing that is very obvious about Mr. Schmidt's release is
that it is classic double-speak: it takes great pains to really say
nothing at all.

 My counter to this release would be to tell Mr. Schmidt and Gateway
to go ahead with their next millenium multimedia "appliance" and if
they really need to call it "Amiga", then do so, but they could at
least show some respect for the Amiga community by releasing the
rights to the old OS and hardware so that someone (maybe this Phoenix
group) can try to continue on our own path even if it's not called
Amiga but something else.

 I've been using Linux now for most of the year. I think Linux shows
us how to almost but not quite get it right. The Open Source concept
is the key element that could resurrect the Amiga if anything can.
What Linux lacks is anything beyond all the excited geeks who really
believe in it. There is a pretense of support for Linux in all of its
"documentation", but the documentation is largely a barely readable
diverse collection of highly technical information, a lot of which is
outdated and incorrect as far as newer releases of the kernel go.

 I have Wordperfect 8 for Linux and it works pretty well. It appears
that Corel feels that because they allow it to be downloaded for free
that they don't need to fix some of the glaring glitches in the
display that are quite annoying (makes it look like a beta version). I
even paid for a licensed copy of Wordperfect 8, and noted after I
bought it that the CDROM manual that comes with it is for Wordperfect
7, and because of MANY differences in the operation of 7 and 8, it is
virtually useless -- fortunately the written manual is correct. I
wanted to email them to let them know about these various problems,
but I can't find any email address on their website to send it to --
I'm certainly not going to pay for a phone call just to tell them all
these problems. I keep wondering, where are the fixes?

 So the gist I get is that the commercial players are using Linux for
two things: 1)to get back at Microsoft, and 2)to save money by not
having to finish and support their products. Doesn't sound like the
beginning of a success story to me.

 Personally, I view Linux as a way to keep myself intellectually
occupied as I fumble my way around its innards. Meanwhile, I'm trying
to learn Perl.

Greg
==
Greg,
 If Linux is to continue its growth, it's going to have to address all
problems of the nature you describe. It's too bad the Amiga will not
be in a position to help.
 As for releasing the source of Amiga OS, that might indeed help. Just
because Amiga OS is old doesn't mean it's bad. One reason many
professionals in the IT world prefer UNIX to NT, and that includes me,
is because UNIX has been around long enough to become very stable and
mature. Amiga OS needs improvements in key areas, but it's also been
tempered by time.
 Brad
~~~~~~

15 Sep 1999
        ...say it ain't so, Brad...

 I'm having trouble believing that Amiga is dead again. I need to hear
it from Gateway. Yeah, I'd love to hear them admit that they did
something so massively stupid. They came along at a time when
MicroSoft was starting to show the strain; they found and bought a
technology that had the potential to finally loosen ol' Visa Bill's
grip on his monopoly; they set up a company to develop it, put their
best people in it, poured dump truck loads of money into it; then,
mere months before this shining hope was ready for release, they took
the very part of the technology, (controlling internet appliances),
that Microsoft already has wrapped up and chucked the whole rest of it
in the dumpster! Irving Gould and Medhi Ali weren't _that_ stupid!

P.S. Do you know off hand what the status of OS3.5 is?

Allan
==
Allan,
 I think you echo questions a large number of Amigans are asking. As
for OS 3.5, as nearly as I can tell it's real and coming. I have my
copy on order.
 Brad

~~~~~~

15 Sep 1999
Hello Brad

    After constructing a long response to Tom Schmidt's statement,
  I decided to erase it and just say I think he's "full of beans".
  It's discouraging that he can't tell the difference between
  hundreds versus thousands of e-mails as it is quite a large
  gap.  He says "Long live Amiga" but Gateway-Amiga has only
  orphaned it once again in the same fashion of Commodore and Escom
  have done with broken promises, mis-management, and greed.
    THE real Amiga has been the devotion, work, and sacrifice of
  designers, programmers, developers, and users.  They support and
  appreciate this "box and O/S" which makes their lives better.
  It's a wonderful workhorse and work of art.  I personally want
  it spread again so that everyone has the opportunity to at least
  know what it is.  I don't care if it's the number one seller, but
  I do care if its decendant is still around for us to use.  So
  call me selfish.....
    Thank you very much for your newsletter, and thanks for posting
  the Phoenix information.  They have my full support.

    - Lars
==
Lars,
 Like you, we wish the Phoenix consortium the best. They have a very
difficult road ahead of them. On their side is that fact that no-one
else has ever done what the Amiga community has already done. This
computer has largely been kept alive by the community for years. Now
it looks like it much be 100% a community project.
 Brad
~~~~~~

14 Sep 1999

 I'm not so sure this is all that bad. Months ago, Gateway said they
weren't going to make the AmigaNG computer, just license the Amiga
technology/OS. Collas said the same a few weeks ago. So now we're back
to the same story.

 What has happened is that Amiga Inc./Gateway has gone into stealth
mode after a lot of publicity, after saying earlier they didn't want
to tip their hand to possible competitors (e.g. Microsoft) who could
thwart their plans. Could not recent events serve to conceal Gateway's
true plans, plans more to our liking than some are willing to admit?

 Maybe we'll find out in "two more weeks" (OK, 4 more months) :-)

Gary
==
Gary,
 We honestly didn't pick and chose our letters for this issue to set a
theme, the tone you see here accurately reflects how our readers feel.
Thank you for providing a counterpoint view. We actually find it a
positive thing that there are still some with hope for the future, and
hope in Gateway/Amiga. However, for the reasons I state in my
editorial above, I really don't expect anything from them. Here's
hoping I'm wrong and you're right.
 Brad

~~~~~~

11 Sep 1999 21:11:31 GMT

Congratulations Ted,

 Your silence is dammning. you most likely will be remembered as the
man who finally laid Amiga to rest.

 I suspect that we are so firecely protective of the Amiga because ALL
of the alternatives, despite their dazzling specs are still
"un-satisfying" to use.

 I run a growing business here in Japan using Amigas...it is quite
difficult to to get hardare and software at times but I persist
because all the Macs and PCs just do not "cut it"

 In closing, I wonder how my business would fare with you as the CEO.
Judging by the track record thus far, I shudder to think.

 Congratulations Ted.

 It's an odd an unfamiliar feeling to say that even though I do not
know you and most probably will never meet you in your lofty
circles...I don't like you.

 In the end, you are responsible. That is how I personally see it.

 The Amiga is not a token in a Monopoly game to us.

Michael
==
Michael,
 I doubt Ted Waite reads "Amiga Update", but I wish he did. As you
say, in the end it's his company. Maybe in Waite/Schmidt we'll have
another pair to place besides Gould/Ali. In truth, we're not quite at
that point yet. There still is a very slim possibility Gateway/Amiga
will do something the community will applaud. I'm not holding my
breath waiting, however.
 We hope you'll forgive us for excerpting your letter. We had to do
that to many of the notes above also, and some letters we couldn't fit
in at all. For some odd reason, the old mailbox at "Amiga Update" is
more full than it's been in a long time ...
 Brad
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September 17, 1999

Open Letter to the Amiga Community

 There has been a great deal of confusion and frustration expressed in
the news groups and via email over the past several weeks. I apologize
that we have not been more direct in our communications, and I want to
set the record straight.

 First, per my previous messages, I continue to be impressed with the
passion and commitment of this community. You have "hung in there''
through a number of upheavals over the past years, and through several
false starts on next-generation Amiga platforms. You deserve better. I
have received many, many emails over the past two weeks, expressing
your opinions and frustrations. Let me try and summarize what I have
heard.

 Many of you acknowledge the fact that we are focusing on software for
the coming generation of "Internet appliances.'' We are very excited
about the new Amiga Operating Environment, the work we are doing with
Linux (and other operating systems that support Java), and the huge
growth curve in Internet appliances that we are going to ride. You
have gracefully wished us well in this endeavor, for that, I thank
you. As you know, we announced in July that we were pursuing the
development of a "multimedia convergence computer'' that would serve
as the next-generation Amiga desktop computer. After the change in
management at Amiga, we reviewed all our product plans. To be honest,
the ability for us to deliver the MCC was unrealistic. Furthermore, I
have fundamentally decided that it would be better to partner with a
wide variety of hardware partners, rather than compete against them
with a product of our own.

 From your perspective, one big problem exists. Sounds great, but what
does this new direction have to do with the original Amiga computer?
Quite honestly, nothing! We realize that this does not satisfy the
desire of the Amiga community for a next-generation Amiga. In
response, I remain committed to seek out partners who are interested
in developing a next-generation Amiga computer and operating system.
We have been following the discussions amongst the newly formed
"Phoenix Platform Consortium'' and talking to companies interested in
supplying the next-generation Amiga. We are open to the possibility of
licensing the MCC product specification and design that is now on the
shelf to companies that are interested in further developing the Amiga
desktop computer product line. We believe that this could be an
attractive business opportunity for another company.

 In summary, we are continuing to focus our resources on setting
software standards for the coming generation of Internet appliances.
We are not planning to offer hardware devices, but will work with
hardware manufacturers who want to license our technology. As far as
offering next-generation Amiga systems, we are open to talking to
companies who want to offer such a product. For those of you who are
excited about the Amiga Operating Environment running on a wide
variety of future Internet appliances, we invite you to track our
progress and activities over the coming months. The Internet appliance
software model that we are putting together will open up an exciting
new era of software development that we think will be very interesting
to the type of innovative thinkers who were drawn to the Amiga
computer in years past.

Best Regards,

Thomas J. Schmidt
President and CEO
Amiga, Inc.
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Motorola PowerPC Microprocessor Strategy (32K pdf)

      Motorola Discloses New PowerPCTM Microprocessor Strategy Roadmap

      Customers announce products based on the MPC7400 microprocessor

 Austin, TX - September 13, 1999 - In a move to demonstrate their
strong long-term commitment to the PowerPC architecture as a strategic
solution addressing multiple markets, Motorola (NYSE: MOT) today
revealed its PowerPC Microprocessor Strategy Roadmap. Details included
information on the future direction for development of leading-edge
microprocessors, integrated devices, innovative design methodologies
and manufacturing processes, as well as an aggressive strategy for
rapid reuse of these technologies. The new products, all to be created
at Motorola design centers worldwide, expand the PowerPC portfolio
providing solutions for the networking, telecommunications, computing,
transportation and other high-end embedded markets. The announcement
was made during the keynote address at the company's Horizons '99
event, where several customers demonstrated new products based on the
recently announced MPC7400 PowerPC microprocessor "The
high-performance embedded space craves raw MIPS processing and
sophisticated integration for its products," said Daniel Artusi,
Motorola vice president and general manager of the Network and
Computing Systems Group. "The large and influential base of customers
using PowerPC-based designs must be able to create flagship products
and move them into the market rapidly. We've dedicated enormous
resources in research and design to ensure that our PowerPC-based
microprocessors continuously deliver best-in-class customer solutions
for all of our target markets."

 As illustrated by Motorola's PowerPC Strategy Roadmap, the PowerPC
core design facilitates ease of reuse for integrated devices or
semi-custom applications. System level reuse of intellectual property
results in faster time-to-market. In 1998, Motorola captured 36% of
the 32-bit embedded processor market and the PowerPC architecture was
rated the #1 choice for new 32-bit embedded applications*. Coupled
with state-of-the-art design methodology, the PowerPC technology reuse
strategy will further strengthen Motorola's already dominant market
position.

 "The PowerPC roadmap underscores a renewed vigor by Motorola to
advance the PowerPC family," said market watcher Will Strauss,
president of Forward Concepts (Tempe, AZ). "Applying the most advanced
0.15-micron copper HiPerMOS process to the product family indicates
Motorola's substantial investment in advancing the PowerPC
technology."

 Today TeraGLOBAL Communications Corporation, CSP Inc. and DY 4
Systems Inc. announced products based on Motorola's MPC7400 PowerPC
microprocessor with AltiVec technology. These products join other
MPC7400-based solutions recently introduced by Mercury Computer
Systems, Inc. and SKY Computers, Inc. The MPC7400 processor with
AltiVec technology also powers all of Apple's newest and most powerful
desktop computers, the Power MacTM G4 series.

 As the worlds's #1 producer of embedded processors, Motorola's
Semiconductor Products Sector offers multiple DigitalDNATM solutions
which enable customers to create new business computing,
transportation, and wireless communications markets. Motorola's
worldwide semiconductor sales were $7.3 billion (USD) in 1998.

 Motorola is a global leader in providing integrated communications
solutions and embedded electronic solutions. Sales in 1998 were $29.4
billion. For additional information regarding Motorola PowerPC
microprocessors, visit http://motorola.com/PowerPC.

 *Source: Cahner's MicroDesign Resources The Microprocessor Report,
January 1999.
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14 Sep 1999

 It's about time the "big boys" came out to play.

 This has happened before. But unlike before, there truly are some
heavyweights among the rebels (or is that REBOLs?)

 We're going to follow this one closely. It opens so many new and
exciting doors. Maybe we (Mirada) won't have to do a 100% port to
Linux after all (?) ;)

 To show our support, any of you weary may submit your support at our
web-page and we will then forward it to "greenboy". And, to further
show our hearts are in the right place, we will give the
administrators of this project full access to the database via a web
interface.

 Fleecy? Bill?

 We are only asking for the exact information that was asked for on
the TA Mailing List.

Point your browser to the form at:
        http://www.mirada-innovations.com/amigang.phtml

 NOTE: This is not yet officially endorsed by Amino or the "Phoenix
Consortium", we are only doing it in support of the effort, all
information is for the SOLE purpose of this effort. It will be
forwarded to the E-Mail address in the TA Mailing List E-Mail
(greenboy@bigsky.net)

Regards,
Jeffrey D. Webster
Mirada Innovations
http://www.mirada-innovations.com/polls/poll.phtml
(Take our bi-weekly Political polls!)
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             A M I G A   E X T R A V A G A N Z A   9 9

24 Sept. 1999
                            Amiga Extravaganza 99


 WHEN:

October 8th (setup) and get acquainted
Sat Oct 9th: 10am-6pm EST
Sun Oct 10th: 10am-4pm EST

 WHERE:

National Guard Armory 3912 West Minnesota St
Indianapolis, IN

HOW MUCH:

$8 in advance
$10 at the door (2 free tickets with purchase of 1 or more tables)



 Who Will Be There?

 If the vendor has a (*) by the name they are not totally committed or
 pending, this will change.

 Digital Arts

 Amiga, NewTek, DeskStation dealer located in Bloomington, IN
*Seminare

 * ImageFX

 Computer animation and graphics for broadcast television, multimedia
and the Internet

 SystemsForTomorrow

 Hardware and software for Amiga. Located in Independence, MO.

 * Token Media

 Video Imaging Studios has served as the Twin Cities full service
video production center.

 Onyx Technologies

 Telecommunication solutions provider for the small to medium business
"an authorized Altigen Communications Dealer"

 Amazing Amiga Magazine

 The World's First Monthly Amiga Magazine *Seminare

 * John Zacharias

 Author of AEMail, email client for the Amiga

 * Cloanto

 Italian makers of the high-quality PPaint, PSuite and Kara Collection
font/etc. package.

 FWD-Computing

 Mail-order CD-ROM software for Amiga computers

 CompuQuick Media Center

 Hardware, software and peripherals in central Ohio.

 Dan's Deals

 Specializing In Amiga Components and Systems, located in NE Ohio

 Macrohard Computers

 Amiga Hardware dealer out of Ohio, Owner Laurent Arseneau

 Discount Computer Supplies

 Printing and computer supplies, Amiga compatible. Will be presenting
a seminar about re-inking cartridges, creating your own designs for
mouse pads, T-shirts & Cups.

 Details

 Show Space 99ft x 104ft (over 10,000 sq. ft!)

 Iteneriary

 Near by lodging ($ave with our group rate)

 Comfort-Sleep Inn

 Online Application Forms for Vendor/Dealers and User Groups. Vendor
Space (8 ft tables - no limit on the # of tables) this price includes
2 free tickets All fees cover both Saturday and Sunday.

 If you are a User Group please click here, All Vendors/Dealers you
need to click here. Please use one of the links above to apply for
show space. Cost of Booths: $300 (Hurry!! deadline Sept 28th)

 Seafood Newburg & Prime Rib, click! Banquet

 All-U-Can-Eat Buffet $25 per person (Waterfront Inn)

 If you are interested in attending our show and you are not a vendor
or part of a user group please click on the following form. ($ave
Now!)

 AE Shows User Form

Make All Payments Payable To:
  ARCUG, Indianpolis
  Att: Amiga Extravaganza A word from the President of ARCUG
  4007 Lawndale Ave ,Suite A
  Indianapolis, IN 46254

http://www.midlink.com/amiga/aeshows2.html
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            S W E D E N ' S   A M I G A   M A G   D I E S

13 Sept., 1999

 The only printed Swedish Amiga magazine - "Amiga Info/AI Echo" -
announced on September 10 that it has ceased publishing. It was
started in 1996 by Thomas Svensson and the final issue (19) was
published in March of this year. The final issue saw a name change
from Amiga Info to "AI/Echo" to better reflect the magazine changing
from an Amiga-only magazine to one also covering Linux. Although that
meant an increase in sales it was not enough to save the magazine.
AmigaInfo/AI Echo's web site will live on at www.xfiles.se.
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                  W A S T E D   D R E A M S   C D

 Winnipeg, MB, September 11, 1999 Power Solutions announces the first
of its imported titles: Wasted Dreams CD for $49.99 CAD. With its hand
drawn locations, digital speech, 3D rendered animations, strategy
action, and logic puzzles it will keep players busy for some time.
Wasted Dreams will work on any Amiga with 2MB Chip ram and 1MB Fast
ram. It will utilize faster CPU's, more memory, and the AGA chipset if
available.

 As well, our efforts to reduce old inventory continue. The 50% off
sale is still ongoing. Buy Distant Suns CD v5.01 for $29.99 CAD and
receive a 50% discount on all other products in our online ordering
catalog. This discount does NOT apply to the Wasted Dreams CD. Power
Solutions is an Amiga only Canadian company. Access our software
catalog at http://www.powersolutions.mb.ca/cat_sw/

http://www.powersolutions.mb.ca/
info@powersolutions.mb.ca
1-204-453-0527
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       D I G I T A L   I M A G E S '   W I P O U T   2 0 9 7

 September 8th, 1999 - Blittersoft have announced today that we are
now taking pre-orders for the famous Anti-Gravity Racer WipeOut 2097.

 This game needs little introduction, already proving a smash hit
success on the PlayStation and PC platforms. We expect full release in
October.

 At last a game is available on the Amiga that will really show off
the power of the PPC platform and 3D capable graphics hardware.

 For further information and pre-order details, please visit the Store
area on our Website.

http://www.blittersoft.com

Specification:

Highly detailed 3d graphics
8 tracks with up to 15 ships racing concurrently
3 racing modes (time trial/arcade/challenge)
4 racing classes
5 ship models with different characteristics
8 weapons/extras
9 CD audio tracks + 16 bit sound fx
MPEG animations (no external player required)
Keyboard/Mouse/Joypad control (fully configurable)

AMIGA-specific features:

Runs in a window on the workbench (incl. resizing)
Supports triple buffering for max. performance
Increased maximal view distance during the race
Fogging effect
Mipmapping/trilinear filtering (if supported by hardware)
Gamma correction
Optional frame rate limitation

Requirements:

PowerPC 603e CPU (recommended: 604e CPU)
3D gfx card (minimal: CV3D, recommended: CVPPC/BVPPC or newer)
recommended: sound card
minimal 1 MB free HD space (recommended: 70 MB)
24 MB RAM (recommended: 32 MB RAM)
CD-ROM drive
OS 3.0 (recommended: OS 3.1)
CyberGraphX/Picasso96 software
WarpUp V4 software (included)
Warp3D V2 software (included)
recommended: AHI software
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              N E W S C O A S T E R   R E L E A S E D

11 September, 1999

NewsCoaster, Offline Newsreader Available

 Announcing the release of NewsCoaster, a new shareware offline
newsreader for the Amiga. The unregistered version can be downloaded
from Aminet, in comm/news/newscoaster.lha

Minimum Requirements:
- 68020 or better
- MUI
- 4MB RAM (absolute minimum)
- OS3.0 or above

Features:

 - Powerful control over which posts are downloaded (eg, set a maximum
number of posts to download) - can configure for each newsgroup
individually - Killfile on any header - Automatic killfile creation,
based on a particular message (eg, kill this thread, or kill all
messages from this author) - Choose not to download messages greater
than a certain number of lines - Email support to reply to sender -
Automatic rewrapping of text when replying - no more overspilling
lines - Multithreaded interface - view messages whilst replying to
others, and having preferences windows open, continue to use the
program whilst uploading and downloading news - Import function which
reads in all news items from a given directory (and all
sub-directories) allowing you to easily import news from your old
newsreader - MIME Version 1.0 for decoding files - can decode
Quoted-Printable, base64 and uuencoded messages - Attachments - base64
encoding - Search facilities - can search in a particular header, or
in any header, the message body, or the entire message - *, / and _
are converted to bolds, italics and underlines - but this can be
turned off (no more unreadable programming NGs that you get in some
newsreaders...) - You can have eight signatures, with a default
specified for each newsgroup - Easy to use interface - AmigaGuide
documentation - Download Group list option - Many more features..

Please visit http://members.tripod.com/newscoaster for more details.

Thanks,

Mark Harman
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       F U S I O N   F O R   P P C   I N   P R O C E S S

                      FUSION-PPC in the works!

              Deadline for release: November 20th, 1999


17 Sept., 1999

 Microcode Solutions is pleased to announce that the 60 day count down
for the release of the PPC module will begin on September 20th, 1999.

 The PC version is being worked on at the same time as the Amiga
version, so the expected release date will be close to the Amiga
version.

 Although we have 60 days to complete the product, it may be that it
is done much sooner... especially in light of the competition between
Microcode Solutions and Emulators, Inc. to release a PPC version for
the PC.

 The retail price for the PowerPC upgrade module is $199.95. If you
pre-pay before the release of the product (regardless of the stated
release date), you will be charged only $149.95.
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                   P H O T O G E N I C S   4 . 2

15 Sept., 1999

 Paul Nolan is pleased to announce Photogenics 4.2, another free
update to existing users of Photogenics 4.x.

 The main new features in 4.2 are Tool Tips for quick and easy
explanations of all of the items in the tool bar, a Media Cache for
improved Media loading times, and new paint on image processing modes
such as: Gamma, Sharpen, UnsharpMask, BizarrePixelize, Randomize, and
Channel Randomize. Blur, Convolve and RadialBlur have been rewritten
for more speed, features and options. In particular Blur is now
incredibly fast. Processing a 50x50 pixel blur on a 800x600 image now
takes less than 2 seconds on an 060, with a huge 500x500 pixel blur
taking just 3 seconds, and is fast enough to apply with the AirBrush!

 Several minor changes include an enhanced Scale with improved quality
and feedback, an improved Text tool, a reduction in the memory need by
Photogenics by one megabyte (now uses just two megs with no images
loaded), various overall speed improvements, keyboard shortcuts for
zoom and pan, plus tweaks to the user interface.

 Price

$99.99 US Dollars.

Upgrade from Photogenics v1.x or v2: $75 US Dollars.

How to purchase Photogenics

 You can securely order online with your credit card by going to
http://www.paulnolan.com and clicking on Purchase, or by calling the
StarByte order hotline toll free on 1 800 243 1515, extension 400.
Outside of Northern America, please prefix this number with the
necessary dialing code (00 from the UK), and note that international
call charges will apply. If upgrading, you will need your registration
code, type it into the field labeled Comments or tell the salesperson.

 Photogenics is also available fully localized in German, with
distribution in Germany courtesy of Schatztruhe,
http://www.schatztruhe.de.

 For screen shots, a gallery, and even more information please visit
the Photogenics website at http://www.paulnolan.com

 Photogenics is a registered trademark of Paul Nolan. All other
trademarks are the property of their respective owners.
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          P U R E   B A S I C   I S   A V A I L A B L E

11 Sept., 1999

 Pure Basic is brand new 'high level' programming langage based on the
previoulsy etablished B.A.S.I.C rules. It ensure a good compatibility
with similar basic compiler independement of the computer. The
learning is easy, as basic has been created for beginner and the
development time is really fast.

 This software has been developed for the Amiga with the Amiga
enviromment in mind. We have put lot of effort in its realization to
produce fast, reliable and system friendly langage. The respect of the
OS is always the master word, and you couldn't write bad software with
the basic commandset provided. Of course, you could add any other
functions to bash the hardware and use all the Amiga power, if you
need it.

 The syntax is easy, but the possibities are huge because some
'advanced' functions has been added to this langage like pointers,
structure, procedure, dynamic linked lists, and more.. For the
experienced coder, there is no problem to access any of the legal OS
structures or amiga objects.

 Finally, Pure Basic support the 680x0 processor and in early stage
the PowerPC. The PowerPC processor is not fully working yet because we
don't have any PPC accelerator at the Fantaisie Software team to
achieve the tests. The 68000 part has been very optimized to output
the best code as possible, but we're sure we could do even better !


 Look yourself at the main features of Pure Basic:

 - 68000 and 68020+ support (PowerPC in progress)

 - Built-in Array, dynamic linked list, complex structure, pointer
 and variable definitions

 - Supported types: Byte (8 bit), Word (16 bits), Long (32) and user
 defined ones (structures)

 - Signed (finished) and unsigned (partially) support for standard
types

 - Built-in strings type

 - Constants, binary and hexadecimal numbers support

 - Very good expression reducer by grouping constants and numeric
numbers together

 - Standard arithmetic support with respect of signs priority and
parenthesis:
 +, -, /, *, and, or, lsl, asl, lsr, asr

 - Compile about 30 000 lines/min on a 68030/50 (with PoolMem
installed)

 - Procedure support for structured programming with locals and global
variables (not fully finished)

 - All Standard BASIC keywords: If-Else-EndIf, Repeat-Until ...

 - External libraries support to manipulate easily objects like IFF
pictures, screens, windows, gadgets...

 - Precompiled structures and constants files for extra fast
compiling.

 - Cool debugger to stop the program execution and trace the bugs
easily.

 - Configurable CLI compiler

 - System friendly, easy to install and always under development


 Visit our site web at: http://www.citeweb.net/fantaisi/

 Enjoy the Amiga power !

 © 1999 - Fantaisie Software -
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From:        info@markengrabbing.de
Date:        Fri, 24 Sep 1999 00:36:41 +0200
Subject:     Aktion gegen Markengrabbing - 24.09.1999
Reply-to:    info@markengrabbing.de


Nach ein paar langen Arbeitstagen habe ich es nun endlich wieder
einmal geschafft: Ein Update der Seiten auf markengrabbing.de ist
da! Das wurde aber auch Zeit ;-)

In der letzten Woche hat sich wohl Einiges getan und so ist es mir
eine Freunde, die folgenden Nachrichten vorzustellen:

+++ Prozeß um "webspace"

Der erste prozeß bzgl. einer einstweiligen Verfügung wurde am
17.09.1999 in Nürnberg geführt. Angetreten waren der
Internetprovider Troidl mit anwaltlicher Vertretung sowie die
anwaltliche Vertretung des Markeninhabers Thielker.
Der Prozeß endete in einem Vergleich ...

--> http://www.markengrabbing.de/troidl.htm


+++ Akte99 (SAT1) berichtet über unsere Aktion

Die wohl angenehmste Überraschung traf mich (eher zufällig) am
vergangenen Dienstag, während ich Fernsehen schaute. Plötzlich
wurde dort in Akte99 über den Fall "webspace" u.a. berichtet.
Unser FvG wurde nicht genannt, dafür wurde unsere Aktion sehr
gelobt :-)) Dies spiegelte sich natürlich auch in den Zugriffszahlen
wieder ...

--> http://www.markengrabbing.de/news.htm


+++ Liste der Unterstützer aktualisiert

Es hat nun fast zwei Wochen gedauert, aber jetzt ist sie endlich
aktualisiert ... die Liste der Unterstützer!
Bei allen, die auf die Eintragung so lange warten mußten, möchte
ich mich herzlich entschuldigen! Also, schaut einmal vorbei und
klickt den einen oder anderen interessanten Link an ;-)
Ach ja, und bitte versucht auch weiterhin, aktive Unterstützer für
uns zu gewinnen !!

--> http://www.markengrabbing.de/unterstuetzer.htm


+++ "www." von Talkline GmbH geschützt

Nun ist auch "www." als Marke geschützt. Die Talkline GmbH hat
dies durchgeführt. Näheres versuchen wir bei denen nun
herauszubekommen ...

--> http://www.markengrabbing.de/news.htm


+++ Surftips versenden

Als neue Möglichkeit, unsere Aktion aktiv zu unterstützen, habe
ich nun den Versand eines sog. "Surftips" eingebaut. Jetzt könnt
ihr Freunde und Bekannte per Email direkt von unserer Seite mit
einer Email auf unsere Aktion hinweisen.
Bitte macht reichlich Gebrauch hiervon, da jede Unterstützung
zählt!

--> http://www.markengrabbing.de/surftip.htm


+++ Hintergrundinformationen werden aufgebaut

Nachdem das Abstimmungsverhältnis der letzten Wochen
eindeutig einen Bedarf nach Hintergrundinformationen aufzeigt,
habe ich in den letzten Tagen begonnen, diese auf
Markengrabbing.de bereitzustellen.
Natürlich ist dies jetzt am Anfang noch recht kläglich, aber es wird
schon ...
Auch hier würde ich mich übrigens über aktive Hilfe von Euch sehr
freuen. Insbesondere sind hier die Rechtsanwälte unter Euch
angesprochen, die vielleicht die ein oder andere Abhandlung über
das Markenrecht veröffentlichen wollen ...
Aber auch ansonsten bin ich -wie immer- in diesem Bereich für
viele Tips und Anregungen dankbar!

--> http://www.markengrabbing.de/hintergruende.htm


+++ Campaign against Trademarkgrabbing

Da ich immer wieder den Hinweis von amerikanischen Besuchern
erhielt, daß das Thema langsam auch in den USA, England etc.
auf Entsetzen stößt, habe ich zuerst einmal die Startseite ins
Englische übersetzt, damit man sich dort zumindestens anfänglich
informieren kann.
In den nächsten Tagen und Wochen werden dann noch viele
weitere Seiten übersetzt. Hoffentlich erreichen wir somit einen noch
größeren Sturm der Entrüstung, damit unsere 'Forderungen'
entsprechenden Nachdruck erhalten ...

---> http://www.markengrabbing.de/start_e.htm


Also, bitte unterstützt uns weiterhin so tatkräftig wie Ihr es bis dato
getan habt. Wir brauchen noch viel Energie und Resourcen, um
diese Auseinandersetzungen zu gewinnen ...

Berichtet weiterhin in Eurem Freundes- und Bekanntenkreis über
unsere Aktion ... vielleicht wird ja auch noch der ein oder andere
weitere Fernsehsender auf uns aufmerksam und wir können auf
diese Art und Weise eine erhebliche Multiplikation unserer
Reichweite und unserer Unterstützung erreichen.

Es ist erstaunlich, welche durchweg positive Reaktion auf unsere
Aktion nach dem Bericht bei Akte99 bei mir hier eintraf. Dies zeigt
mir, daß wir(!) auf dem richtigen Weg sind ...

Also, bis später und noch viel Spaß und Erfolg am heutigen Tage :-)

Euer
Thorsten Haßiepen




*** Aktion gegen Markengrabbing ***
URL: http://www.markengrabbing.de
Email: info@markengrabbing.de

Newsletter herausgegeben von:
Thorsten Hassiepen, Hauptstrasse 31, D-41844 Wegberg
Tel.: 02434-20687 (V.i.S.d.P.)

Bitte unterstuetzen Sie uns!
Vielen Dank!
***

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Date:    Wed, 22 Sep 1999 11:30:00 +0100
From:    Greg greg@gpwebb.freeserve.co.uk
To:      petra.struck@online-club.de
Subject: KOSH News


After a long enforced break, KOSH is finally back! Discussion lists are
running again, work is being done and the website is even being updated
:) New members are welcome as ever, and we welcome all skill levels and
platform advocates.

Current website mirrors are:

http://www.iconimaging.net/kosh/
http://kosh.convergence.org/
http://www.gpwebb.freeserve.co.uk/kosh/

About KOSH

KOSH is a new platform being designed and built by the users,
developers, retailers and journalists who will use it. It offers the
potential for real innovation in hardware and software whilst also
allowing for the best use of existing machines. It puts the individual
at the centre of the computing experience and empowers them to create,
work and play in the virtual world. Built on a firm commercial base, it
will be owned by the same users, developers, retailers and journalists
that go to make up its vibrant community.

Thank you,


--------------------------------------------------

Greg
--------------------------------------------------
ssu97gw@reading.ac.uk, greg@gpwebb.freeserve.co.uk

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• Löschen der Gebührenzähler
• Einfache Requester für Informationen, Fehleranzeige und "Ja/Nein"-Abfragen
• Starten von bis zu 10 Programmen per Shortcut

• Tool zum Auslesen der Gebührenzähler und speichern in eine Logdatei (für Workbench und Shell)
• ARexx-Skript zum Auslesen der Gebührenzähler und eintragen in ein "TurboCalc"-Arbeitsblatt

• Amiga mit Amiga-OS 3.0+
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• Festplatte
• Wenn ARexx-Skripte genutzt werden, muss der ARexx-Interpreter "RexxMast" gestartet sein

• AmiTCP-Genesis
• VoyagerNG
• Microdot-II
• AmFTP
• AmIRC
• AmTelnet
• AmTerm
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KOSH [Kommunity Orientated Software Hardware]

Weekly Summary

Week Commencing: 11th September 1999

Number: 026

Mailing List: kosh-general@icon2.iconimaging.net

In the mailing list this week, the following items were discussed.

I'm happy to receive comments on this summary (and corrections if I have made
mistakes). Email me (Bridge) at kosh-scribe@mythicz.u-net.com

Well it has been a while - the last summary was in June when kosh.net vanished.
We now have access to the same kosh-general mailing list but it is located at
kosh-general@icon2.iconimaging.net which in fact is the same as "kosh.net". On
that note it is important to a) send messages to the icon2 address and b) when
replying to messages check your "Send to:" field to make sure it says icon2 as
it has a habit of filling in "kosh.net" which doesn't work (this has been
demonstrated on a number of email packages).

kosh-general@iconimaging.net also works now but the above is still relevant for
people replying to older messages.

I am also posting summary 25 with this one (in a separate file in case you want
to avoid it!) as a reminder of what was going on back in June.

Anyway, on with the show!


a)

Subject: KOSH is back!

Summary of debate: It never really went away, it just went a bit quiet for a
                   while. Please note the following items for KOSH:

                   1) Email address is kosh-general@icon2.iconimaging.net (read
                   the introduction above for more information) BUT
                   kosh-general@iconimaging.net works without all the problems
                   described above so try this instead if you are creating new
                   mail (thanks to Jason Radford for fixing this).

                   2) The KOSH website is located on a mirror at
                   http://www.gpwebb.freeserve.co.uk/kosh/index.html

                   3) The KOSH booklist remains at
                   http://www.snowcrash.u-net.com/kosh/booklist.html and is
                   well worth a look through.

                   4) If you have a query such as "where did that bit of KOSH
                   info go?" then please email me (Bridge) at
                   kosh.scribe@mythicz.u-net.com and I'll either have it to
                   hand or know someone that does.


b)

Subject: New method for summaries

Summary of debate: An alternative interactive internet based way of producing
                   summaries is being looked at. The beginnings of this can be
                   seen at http://www.tele2.co.uk/~flump/kosh/ and mention on
                   the ML of things like Perl and Mason has occurred.

c)

Subject: Second user survey draft

Summary of debate: This is where we left off back in June discussing the User
                   Summary that Greg and co were working on. I'm leaving
                   summarising it off of this summary as it sort of took over
                   back in June and I'm going to keep this summary general:P
                   Suffice to say all is progressing well. Thank to Greg for
                   getting this one started again.


d)

Subject: 3D+ data manipulation

Summary of subject: A bit back I was discussing with Greg Webb and John
                    Chandler my ideas for 3D data manipulation. At the moment
                    we all have cosy spreadsheets that let you enter data on
                    the x and y planes (columns and rows). However in every day
                    usage I find this constricting as I need a visual (and not
                    just mathematical) way to place data on x,y and z planes.
                    While this can be done with conventional spreadsheets just
                    about if you have to y-axis on the resulting graphs it
                    hardly makes for perfection. The idea is that perhaps apps
                    in KOSH can be written to take 3D (or more - although
                    changes over time normally gets stuck on the x-axis in
                    conventional spreadsheets) data sets and be able to view
                    them on screen, rotating through them, using pan, scan and
                    zoom to be able to view the whole thing in any way you
                    want. Now this may only be possible in a "3d" or
                    holographic monitor - but maybe not as the eye can easily
                    be tricked.

                    It was suggested that there may be people out there that
                    actually need nD data manipulation tools - and this could
                    well be a killer app for KOSH.


e)

Subject: RF bugs KOSH?

Summary of debate: A way to make computers transmit RF information by executing
                   code to put data on a bus in a certain pattern has been
                   figured out. The potential for using this to bug people's
                   machines with nothing more complicated than a small software
                   agent and a cheap radio could well be a real problem for
                   KOSH if we decide to implement this type of technology (and
                   why not - after all KOSH is inclusive).

                   What sort of steps could we take to plug this potential
                   problem but still allow this technology to be used in KOSH?

                   It was suggested that a system of public and private keys
                   could be used to plug this hole as a transmitting system
                   would have to send an underlying carrier wave containing a
                   valid key for the recipient machine to "listen" and act on
                   the main message.


f)

Subject: EROS

Summary of debate: An interesting URL of http://www.eros-os.org was mentioned
                   which people may want to take a look at.


g)

Subject: IMPORTANT! All KOSH Working group progress managers and maintaners
         please read.

Summary of debate: A direct cross-list post from Greg that is important for the
                   above to read:

We seem to be having difficulties contacting our working group progress
manager and maintainer of our supporters list, so we haven't been able
to get up-to-date information on either for some time. If you're
involved with a working group or have registered your interest as a
supporter and are not shown here then please get in touch so we can
update the necessary details.

The relevant page to check whether you're registered is
http://www.gpwebb.freeserve.co.uk/kosh/kommunity/index.html and I'd
appreciate any resulting information coming in to me.

Thanks,
Greg


h)

Subject: Open KOSH

Summary of debate: Following an idea myself and others had on the nature of
                   KOSH towards other competing systems, Greg Webb (yep it's
                   that man again!) has compiled an article on this. The
                   general jist is that if KOSH is open about its weaknesses as
                   well as its strengths particularly when at computer shows
                   then we will generate a more honest atmosphere with users
                   whom KOSH is designed to serve (and not control unlike
                   certain other systems out there).

                   To demonstrate openness, an example given is that at a
                   computer show we could line up several computers running
                   (for example) AmigaOS, KOSH, Linux, Windows and MacOS and
                   then demonstrate each to its full potential. The conclusion
                   hopefully will be that KOSH is better than the rest for the
                   user to get the "thing" to do what they want. However if
                   KOSH fouls up and another system turns out better at
                   performing a particular function we admit this openly and go
                   away and fix the problem on KOSH.

                   See the KOSH URL for the full interesting text (and it does
                   make a good read - some very thought provoking things in
                   there).


i)

Subject: KOSH and Convergence International

Summary of debate: John Chandler has given a short KOSH update to James Sears
                   for inclusion in the next Convergence international
                   newsletter. James has offered assistance to KOSH to get
                   around the kosh.net DNS problem (thanks James).


j)

Subject: Re-announcing KOSH


Summary of debate: If anyone has -any- computer contacts that they can email to
                   say "KOSH is back at  and " then please do so.
                   Only thing is that we may want to coordinate this as we
                   could end up bombarding some unsuspecting person. I've
                   emailed Amiga Format (Ben Vost) and am contacting
                   Petra Struck of http://www.amiga-news.de .
                   John has contacted Convergence International (see above).
                   Can anyone else offer up other contacts?


k)

Subject: Fleecy's Lentil

Summary of debate: Fleecy Moss and John Karcher are working on Lentil which (I
                   think from my limited understanding) is a logical and formal
                   language being developed due to reservations about IDL. They
                   are currently designing a Java tool that allows entities to
                   be designed and maintained. More details to follow in the
                   fullness of time.


l)

Subject: Dave Haynie and the Object Sea

Summary of debate: Someone emailed me and told me Dave is still working on the
                   above which is a jolly good thing. (For those doubters out
                   there - see KOSH is coming back to life after... well not
                   really dying in the first place).


m)

Subject: KOSH Owls

Summary of debate: Gary Peake of http://www.OwlNet.net offered the email
                   address kosh-list@owlnet.net (thanks Gary). I don't know if
                   this is up and running or if we are sticking with icon2.
                   Watch this space for more info next week hopefully.


n)

Subject: KOSH FAQs

Summary of debate: Greg Webb has written some but more are needed on anything
                   related (or vaguely related) to KOSH. Offers of assistance
                   to greg@gpwebb.freeserve.co.uk please.


o)

Subject: Multiprocessing KOSH

Summary of debate: A direct quote from Greg here which is interesting:

Amiga.org are reporting that there's a patent application from Amiga
Development on IBM's patents server covering multiprocessor bits:

At least two clusters of CPUs are present in a multiprocessor computer
system. Each CPU cluster has a given number of CPUs, each CPU having an
associated ID such as an ID number. An additional ID number, not
associated with a CPU in the same cluster, is associated with the
opposite CPU cluster that appears to the original cluster as a "phantom"
processor. A round-robin bus arbitration scheme allows ordered ownership
of a common bus within a first cluster until the ID reaches the
"phantom" processor, at which time bus ownership passes to a CPU in the
second cluster. This arrangement is preferably symmetric, so that when a
CPU from the first cluster requests ownership of the bus, it is granted
bus ownership by virtue of the first cluster's appearance to the second
cluster as a "phantom" CPU.

Does this sound useful to our hardware people?

See: http://amiga.org/articles/1999/0901-aipatents.shtml


p)

Subject: New KOSH mirror site

Summary of debate: A new mirror site for KOSH can be found at
                   http://kosh.convergence.org/ and you'll find some space
                   kindly donated by http://www.convergence.org/ This should be
                   quicker than the current location (again thanks to
                   Convergence International for their kind help with this).


q)

Subject: Amiga, KOSH and QNX

Summary of debate: With Amiga declaring that they are not going to make
                   hardware but concentrate on software perhaps should switch
                   the idea of one of the hosts for KOSH being AmigaOS to QNX.
                   If we stay with Amiga which from recent announcements seems
                   to be going to be hosted over other things then we end up
                   with the silly situation of base OS with 2 levels of hosting
                   on top.

                   Please note that this is only in reference to AmigaNG and not
                   "Classic" which a number of people have said we should port
                   to. Also note there is no change with the idea of hosting on
                   Linux and Windows.


r)

Subject: AmiJoe and KOSH

Summary of debate: With Met@Box producing the AmiJoe accelerator for the A4000
                   perhaps KOSH should consider porting a hosted version
                   specifically to take advantage of this and other PPC Amigas?


s)

Subject: Transmeta and KOSH

Summary of debate: Simple question - Is Transmeta of any use to KOSH?


t)

Subject: Team Amiga, Phoenix Platform Consortium and KOSH

Summary of debate: A cross-ML posting with two things of interest:
                   To join Team Amiga ML send an email to Gary Peak TA
                   coordinator at gpeake@texas.net with the subject of
                   "join TA request" and your personal details. All info
                   provided by you on joining will be for internal TA/TAC use
                   only.

                   Secondly here is a snippet from the rest of the email which
                   is very interesting for KOSH although please note that there
                   were mixed feelings about what Phoenix is trying to do:

The Phoenix Platform Consortium will assume responsibility for aid and
recommendation for reference platforms for the Amiga users who wish to
upgrade their present Amigas, as we establish an open migration path
to a new platform. That platform will in spirit and in feel be a new
Amiga experience while incorporating and surpassing the features found
on the desktop elsewhere today.

As information becomes available it will be posted on mailing lists,
newsgroups, and at the following website: http://owlnet.net/phoenix/
which will be up shortly. This announcement is freely repostable.


u)

Subject: KOSH Subscribers

Summary of debate: There is a problem at the moment that some KOSHans are not
                   receiving emails via the icon2 email address we are using.
                   Obviously this creates a problem. Please can you therefore
                   email Greg Webb at greg@gpwebb.freeserve.co.uk and let him
                   know that you are getting the emails. We can then coordinate
                   a "rescue package" to contact other KOSHans who have been
                   dropped off of the list (by comparing the respondents to
                   Greg with the kosh-general@kosh.net ML subscribee list that
                   we have).


v)

Subject: Why KOSH?

Summary of debate: I seem to be quoting a lot in full this week but why not -
                   its not as though there have been many summaries to read
                   since June. Here is a quote from Greg Webb (does this guy do
                   anything but KOSH? - all credit due to him!) which I
                   particularly like:

KOSH isn't just a software engineering project. The thing that really
sets us apart and makes me particularly fond of this project - for those
who hadn't noticed ;) - is the ideology behind it. We're not in this
just to produce something fantastic, we're in it to produce something
for the community. So, rather than a more traditional corporate
structure, we're set up so that KOSH is owned (when these considerations
actually mean anything) by a combination of those who've developed it
(as in us guys), those who own KOSH boxes and those who sell KOSH boxes.
No corporate investors running this for financial gain, just a community
of people who want to avoid the horrific problems that the Amiga
platform has suffered. So, we're set up to do everything we can to make
that impossible.

Greg


w)

Subject: New hardware from IBM

Summary of debate: IBM recently announced availability of PPC motherboard
                   designs. This should help start up Mac clones again (with
                   MacOS X on UNIX/NeXT). Motorola have announced PPC G5 (64
                   and 32 bit products, new pipeline, new bus topology, 2GHz+)
                   and G6. This hardware could be used for KOSH systems.


x)

Subject: TransAM/One

Summary of debate: Interest was expressed on the list for Met@Box to start up
                   the TransAM/One project again as this would present a very
                   interesting hardware opportunity for KOSH (noting it would
                   not be the only hardware solution - inclusive but not
                   exclusive...)






From:     "Colin-Stewart Bridge Deady" csbdeady@mythicz.u-net.com
Date:     18 Sep 99 11:52:33 +0000
Subject:  [KOSH] Summary 25 to go with 26
To:       kosh-general@iconimaging.net
Reply-To: kosh-general@iconimaging.net

As promissed here is summary 25 to go with 26 so we can remember what
was going on in June...

-Bridge


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KOSH [Kommunity Orientated Software Hardware]

Weekly Summary

Week Commencing: 12th June 1999

Number: 025

Mailing List: kosh-general

In the mailing list this week, the following items were discussed. Please do
not email the scribe regarding any of these topics, it is not his job to answer
these questions but merely to report  the topics of conversation. If you have
any queries about this summary, please email ben@kosh.net, stating the Summary
Number, and Mailing List Name, and he will try to answer your queries.

a)

Subject: Community involvement in Linux - an example for KOSH?

Summary of debate: Linux stresses community involvement and feedback. See
                   http://www.kde.org - from the website can be seen where KOSH
                   could go in terms of feed back mechanisms (documentation,
                   FAQ, wish list, bug reports, etc).


b)

Subject: KOSH Installation

Summary of debate: It was pointed out that KOSH being easy to install and
                   working first time will present a good first impression to a
                   user. It was also mentioned that subsequent usage and
                   alteration of the system should also maintain the good
                   impression.


c)

Subject: Second User Survey Draft

Summary of debate: The KOSH Survey WG released the second version of its User
                   Survey Questionnaire. Changes incorporated included an
                   additional section on disabilities and a note that personal
                   questions are completely optional and various other
                   amendments.

                   See the email from Greg Webb (greg@gpwebb.freeserve.co.uk)
                   date 14/06 and entitled "[KOSH] Second survey draft" for the
                   full text.

                   This again generated a large number of replies with many
                   constructive comments on the survey. Even though the survey
                   is developing very well a number of areas such as the
                   personal questions section were felt in need of further
                   development. Even so, a big thanks to all the hard work that
                   the Survey WG have put in to this project.

                   One key point for the future is that there will most likely
                   be a "Developers Survey" and therefore the one we are
                   creating at the moment does not need to cover everything.
                   However we do note that developers are users and vice versa.

                   I won't detail all the different comments on the second
                   draft as I'm sure the Survey WG will be taking their own
                   notes and I don't want to take up the entire summary with
                   it. If you're interested in the work of that group please
                   feel free to get involved!

c)

Subject: Volunteers to translate the survey to other languages.

Summary of debate: As well as Thomas Jensen offering to do a Danish translation
                   of the survey, Philippe 'Elwood' Ferucci has volunteered to
                   do a French version. Thanks to both of you.

                   If anyone else would be able to translate the Survey into
                   other languages when it is completed please would they make
                   themselves known to kosh-general@kosh.net


d)

Subject: Deadlocking in KOSH

Summary of debate: The following questions were posed:
                   "How will Deadlock (resource circularity, mutual exclusion,
                   hold&wait) be dealt with?  In current OSes it is not a
                   serious problem because there are not many places it can
                   occur - but in a sea of objects all offering services, the
                   possibility for deadlock must increase 1000 (or a million?)
                   fold... [Without this] KOSH...won't work for more than a few
                   minutes before the entire system freezes up solid under
                   heavy load".

                   Apparently Unix ignores deadlock and hopes it will go away,
                   working on the grounds that it does not happen all that
                   often. Hopefully a better solution will be found in  KOSH?

                   There are plenty of ways to prevent deadlocks from ever
                   ocurring by being careful about how you hand out resources
                   and checking with process what resources they could
                   conceivably need.

                   Alternatively getting rid of "hold & wait" just like in
                   current filing systems could be the way to solve this. The
                   OS can be set up so that, if a process wants some resources,
                   it has to give up others.


                   A deadlocking object in the resource manager was proposed.


e)

Subject: Atari computers and MiNT

Summary of debate: It was mentioned that those using Atari computers now use
                   MiNT which has multitasking and is POSIX compliant. See
                   http://www.altos.org.uk/mint/index.html which has a guide to
                   FreeMiNT. MiNT is a hybrid of Unix and TOS. Perhaps this has
                   some ideas that are relevant to KOSH.


f)

Subject: KOSH website location

Summary of debate: Just in case you missed it, the most up-to-date version of the
                   website is currently at http://www.rdg.ac.uk/~ssu97gw/kosh/

                   It should move to kosh.net/ soonish.


g)

Subject: Developing users

Summary of debate: In reference to the User Survey it was mentioned that
                   developers and users are often the same people. If we could
                   make it so that in KOSH every user could behave as a
                   developer at any time we would make the system much more
                   accessible. We would thus avoid creating an  unnatural
                   separation and scare people into a division between the two.

                   We must be careful not to scare off people who just want to
                   be users.


h)

Subject: EPOC32

Summary of debate: The Psion 5 keyboard being nice to type on compared to other
                   palmtops was mentioned and this generated a comment that
                   EPOC32 has some nice things in it that KOSH may like to look
                   at (scribe's note: presumably EPOC32 is an OS and not a
                   keyboard though).


i)

Subject: KOSH FAQ

Summary of debate: "Our Greg" has asked he could have some questions to put
                   into the KOSH FAQ please. Oh and Frequently given answers
                   would be nice as well.


j)

Subject: Sheep and #HHHHHH

Summary of debate: There was lots of discussion on sheep and dodgy HTML code
                   involving #HHHHHH which gives lots of interesting results
                   depending on where you see it - oh and watching the Simpsons
                   when one should be working on one's studies was also
                   mentioned... and that's all I'm saying about this:P

From:       Rüdiger Engel Ruediger.Engel@gmx.de
To:         Petra Struck Petra.Struck@online-club.de
Date:       Fri, 17 Sep 1999 15:05:31 +0200
Subject:    Bericht von Verhandlung Thielker .\. Troidl

Beim Betreten des Verhandlungssaales fiel mir erstmal die geringe
Zuschauerzahl auf, außer mir waren lediglich 3 Personen anwesend.
Der Antragsgegner (Troidl) war persönlich mit zwei Anwälten an seiner Seite
anwesend, Thielker ließ sich durch Freiherrn v. Gravenreuth und noch einen
Anwalt vertreten.

Als der Anwalt des Antragsgegners ein langes Plädoyer über den Schutzwert
der Bezeichnung "Webspace" startete, unterbrach ihn der Richter nach kurzer
Zeit mit den Hinweis darauf, daß das nicht Gegestand dieser Verhandlung
sei.

Gravenreuth hat eigentlich während der gesamten Verhandlung nicht viel
geagt. Das einzig Bemerkenswerte in Gravenreuths Aussagen war, daß er
"keine Hundert, aber doch mehr als zwölf Abmahnungen" verschickt habe und
mit "einigen Großen" auch Lizenzverträge zur Nutzung des Namens "Webspace"
geschlossen habe.

Nachdem nach einer Stunde keine Einigung erzielt werden konnte (Troidls
Anwalt wollte nunmal von seiner prinzipiellen Ablehnung des Markenschutzes
für "Webspace" nicht abrücken und auch Gravenreuth blieb natürlich bei
seiner Forderung) gingen die Parteien in eine Pause. Tenor des Richters und
Gravenreuths war es, Troidl beizubringen, daß er sich seine Prinzipien
nicht leisten könne und einlenken möge. Man käme ihm ja sogar mit der
Möglichkeit der Ratenzahlung entgegen.

Nach der Pause verkündete der Richter dann folgendes Urteil:

1.) Der Antragsgegner verpflichtet sich, bis zum Abschluß des
Löschungsverfahrens beim Markengericht in München (AZ 39806414.8/42-S166
aus 99) unbeschadet seiner Rechte aus §23 Markenschutzgesetz das
Kennzeichen "Webspace" im geschäftlichen Verkehr für die Bereitstellung der
für die Internetpräsentation von Dritten benötigte Hardware (Speicherplatz)
sowie die Durchführung der technischen Umsetzung nicht zu benutzen.

2.) Für jeden Fall der Zuwiderhandlung verpflichtet sich der Antragsgegner,
eine Vertragsstrafe in Höhe DM 10.001,- zu bezahlen.

3.) Der Antragsteller verzichtet auf Schadensersatzansprüche aus einer
bisherigen etwaigen Nutzung des Kennzeichens durch den Antragsgegner.

Mit Punkt 3 erledigt sich dann natürlich Ratenzahlung.
Die Punkte 4 bis 7 und die Zusätze behandeln vor allem Formalien.
Es wäre noch zu erwähnen, daß Troidl 4/5 der Verfahrenskosten trägt und ihm
Prozeßkostenhilfe für die erste Instanz bewilligt wurde.

nd-exf99.lha         mods/neuro 297K+OSS "Exploding Fist" conversion
CrazySueII_mus.lha   mods/pro   306K+Music from Crazy Sue II game
CrazySue_mus.lha     mods/pro   305K+Music from Crazy Sue game
handsom.lha          mods/roz   140K+Sum house by Roz/RNO^Fit^pJz
orchest.lha          mods/roz   448K+Asm99 entry by Roz/RNO^Fit^pJz
phatkhem.lha         mods/roz   394K+Weird breakbeat stuff by Roz/RNO^Fit^pJz
junokit02.lha        mods/smpl  414K+Juno-106 sample kit vol 2
SparDas.lha          mods/techn  66K+Techno like mod using Assampler sounds
onesmallst.lha       mods/tranc 150K+Space-Trance by Eraser/Sector B
Assampler.lha        mus/edit   626K+Object oriented sound processor program
AssamplerDebug.lha   mus/edit   329K+Debug version of Assampler
AssamplerExtra.lha   mus/edit   178K+Some extravagances for Assampler
ahipre.lha           mus/misc   506K+Prerelease of AHI-PPC,binary files
ahisrc.lha           mus/misc   432K+Prerelease of AHI-PPC,source files
LAMEbeta.lha         mus/misc   298K+The best MP3 encoder for 040/060/PPC v3.
MP3TEDv25.lha        mus/misc   160K+MP3-TagEditor v2.5 - (Free Keyfile)
Eclipse99.jpg        pix/astro   59K+An AMIGA created montage of my recent so
AF-Eclipse1.jpg      pix/boot   184K+Colorful image of the sky w/ sun and ref
WolfB_IGfx.lha       pix/icon    79K+Misc beautiful Icons in IconoGfx-Design
EnterpIncident.jpg   pix/mark   284K+Enterprise meets Romulans
Enterprise.jpg       pix/mark   284K+Classic Enterprise in Deep Space
saku99k1.lha         pix/misc   3.5M+Pics from Saku 99, Finnish Amiga event.
saku99k2.lha         pix/misc   1.3M+More Saku 99 pics (Finnish Amiga event).
ToyBox.mpg           pix/mpg    3.5M+Toy Box Animation
SJI-Aurora-Pre.lha   pix/nicon  654K+SadJesterIcons Aurora Set Prerelease 3. 
LAW_01.lha           pix/sport  1.0M+Ladies Arm Wrestling pics - Archive 1
LAW_02A.lha          pix/sport  1.2M+Ladies Arm Wrestling pics - Archive 2 (1
LAW_02B.lha          pix/sport  1.2M+Ladies Arm Wrestling pics - Archive 2 (2
ATWB.lha             pix/wb     160K+Pics from my nice WB
eraserwb.lha         pix/wb      70K+Eraser's 16col "Trekkie-Workbench"
ThinpazB.lha         text/bfont   3K+Great thin font for use with Workbench!
Amitex_3.19.lha      text/edit  281K+Text editor (French and english versions
BAH.lha              text/edit   93K+Adds configurable toolbars to BED. V3.6
rSrT.lha             text/misc    3K+Repeated Search/Replace in Textfile(s)
WordConverter.lha    text/misc   89K+Converts Word 2,4,5,6,7,8 files to text,
prtman39.lha         text/print 169K+Printmanager for AmigaOS3 (39.28)
EvenMore.lha         text/show  252K+V0.54 - A nice textviewer
appxtrakt.lha        util/arc    28K+Little tool to extract Lha,Lzx & Zip fil
bootstartupv2.lha    util/batch   6K+Programmable boot menu script v2
CovertBoot.lha       util/boot   45K+Covert Bootup for Syspic 4.00
RemAPollo.lha        util/boot   30K+A1200 040\060 MMU Apollo Turboboard Rema
EsperantoCX.lha      util/cdity  90K+Esperanto Commodity - Easy Access to Sup
MCXPrefs.lha         util/cdity 108K+Gadtools GUI for MultiCX 2.80 (FREEWARE)
GatewayTools.lha     util/cli   840K+Various tools for use in CLI
RunFromWB.lha        util/cli    11K+Runs file in WB way
StarDate.lha         util/cli   106K+StarDate-Clock (CLI) for free use
VersCheck.lha        util/cli   418K+Check your libs,MUI,devs,dtypes,classes,
akNAIL-dt.lha        util/dtype  91K+AkNAIL-dt V44.4 (NAIL, 68000-060)
russian.hash.lha     util/gnu   762K+* iSpell Russian Dictionary (Ami1251) v1
GatewayLibrary.lha   util/libs   78K+Shared Library with many functions
mpega_library.lha    util/libs  346K+MPEG Audio decoder library V2.4 (68020+)
ButtonBar.lha        util/misc   77K+Button launching interface.
bws_progs.lha        util/misc   22K+Various Wanted Commands and GUI's
DelfInit.lha         util/misc   14K+Initialization utility for Delfina sound
loto99.lha           util/misc  104K+National Lottery & Thunderball checker
loto99a.lha          util/misc  104K+National Lottery & Thunderball checker
mvslink.lha          util/misc  133K+Splitting utilities with gui. v.1.4  
ReqAttack.lha        util/misc  515K+V1.1 Cool new requester improver (animat
StripHunks.lha       util/misc    9K+V1.7 CLI tool to strip useless hunks
agf.lha              util/pack   20K+AGF V0.9 - n*8-bit Sample Pre-Packing Pr
agf_030fpu.lha       util/pack   11K+AGF - n*8-bit Sample Pre-Packing Process
xpk_Develop.lha      util/pack  106K+V5.2 Compression package, developer cut
xpk_Source.lha       util/pack  176K+V5.2 Compression package, source files
xpk_User.lha         util/pack  225K+V5.2 Compression package, user edition
Homebanking.lha      util/rexx   29K+Homebanking mit ADM und Multitermkit (Ge
MergePacScores.lha   util/rexx    7K+ARexx script for merging two PACMAN.HISC
Yamtoguide.lha       util/rexx    5K+Converts Yam Folders to AmigaGuide.
InstallerNG.lha      util/sys   251K+C= Installer compatible replacement
JoinReplace.lha      util/sys    16K+V1.19 powerful Join replacement
AT.lha               util/time  101K+New database and reminder (german only)
CyberClock.lha       util/time   21K+Digital clock w/ changeable digits
SetDST.lha           util/time   52K+Adjusts time for Daylight Saving Time
FileShield.lha       util/virus  28K+Protect Your executables against linkvir
Safe.lha             util/virus  23K+Best new linkviruses detector
VirusExecutor.lha    util/virus  98K+VirusExecutor v1.82f
VTDocsEng.lha        util/virus  46K+English translation of VTx.yz docs
IconType.lha         util/wb     25K+IconType converts the type of an icon
UpBR.lha             util/wb    101K+Portugues-BRASIL v1.6 upgrade kit for Am
WBWelcome.lha        util/wb    313K+Random Workbench greeter
Hingis.lha           biz/dbase  194K+Martina Hingis tennis singles matches in
OpusGIbar.lha        biz/dopus  159K++120 Nice GlowIcons for your DOpus Toolb
MPackMUI.lha         comm/misc   36K+V1.0 MUI interface for MPack V1.5
PalmBackup.lha       comm/misc  163K+1.7 - Backup/Restore/Install for PalmPil
IPScanner.lha        comm/tcp    21K+Shows open TCP/IP Port from a given doma
aipw.lha             comm/www    26K+MUI IP Watcher. Shows your IP+HostName. 
AWebResume.lha       comm/www    61K+Integrate FTP and HTTP resume support in
gng.lha              comm/www   753K+GNU Internet mirroring tool with interfa
HTTPResume_Slo.lha   comm/www     3K+Slovenian localization for HTTPResume v1
MiamiOnline2.lha     comm/www     2K+Load FreePhone Number If Weekend (Miami)
MWI-SDV20.lha        demo/mag   1.2M+SAVE DA VINYL #20 - packmag by Madwizard
adv-ita.lha          dev/amos    77K+Italian adventures creator for AMOSPro
modifile.lha         dev/amos    67K+File modifier written by AMOSPro
SineWriter.lha       dev/asm      5K+Generate fixed point sine/cosine/hybrid 
PureBasic.lha        dev/basic  421K+V1.02 - Brand new powerful programming l
GED_Scripts.lha      dev/c       18K+Useful ARexx Scripts for C Programming
2b_Brush2eMui.lha    dev/e       42K+Changes brushes to E src for MUI
2b_CreativE.lha      dev/e       69K+New AmigaE compiler
TearOff13.3_E.lha    dev/e        8K+E Modules for TearOff MUI classes
jikes-diffs.lha      dev/lang    12K+IBM's fast Java compiler, v1.04 (diffs)
jikes.lha            dev/lang   568K+IBM's fast Java compiler, v1.04 (source)
jikes000.lha         dev/lang   545K+Fast Java compiler, v1.04 (68000 binary)
jikes020-060.lha     dev/lang   539K+Fast Java compiler,v1.04 (68020-060,FPU)
S3DC.lha             dev/mui      4K+Simple MUI example source to compile wit
CDCat-AmiNet32.lha   disk/cdrom 1.7M+CDCat Index Of AmiNet 3-32
FlashROM.lha         disk/cdrom  17K+Amiga tool to change the flash ROM of Pl
GetCDDB.lha          disk/cdrom  46K+Easy download of CD disc id files
MakeCDsvenskaC.lha   disk/cdrom  35K+Swedish catalog for MakeCD V3.2
2b_HfMounterNG.lha   disk/misc   18K+Manager for 'fmsdisk.device' units.
PFSDefragTry.lha     disk/optim   6K+Tries to defrag PFS partitions (37.4), w
musiccharts.txt      docs/anno    0K+Announcment regarding.....
aMiGaPoWeR.lha       docs/hyper  68K+AMiGa=PoWeR French Amiga Magazine
bruce_dickinso.lha   docs/hyper  51K+Bruce Dickinson Guide V1.0
iron_maiden.lha      docs/hyper 135K+Iron Maiden Guide V2.5
AO_0101.lha          docs/mags    9K+AO newsletter - volume 1, issue 1 - 3 Se
AO_0102.lha          docs/mags    9K+AO newsletter - volume 1, issue 2 - 13 S
AO_0103.lha          docs/mags   11K+AO newsletter - volume 1, issue 3 - 17 S
sol_dt.lha           game/board  62K+*Inofficial* German exe for Solitaire v1
Lekis_XTR_Trac.lha   game/data   78K+Tracks for Xtreme Racing
malicemod.lha        game/patch 240K+Malice (Quake TC) bot-mod & fpsbooster
YAGACFix.lha         game/role  197K+Graphic adventure creator (Balrog Soft)F
YAGACFix2.lha        game/role  193K+Graphic adventure creator (Balrog Soft)F
stefadv.lha          game/text   22K+Little italian text adventure
stefadv2.lha         game/text   65K+2nd little italian text adventure
startrekprg.lha      game/think 1.3M+-Star Trek-, Fixes all known bugs
VE-ReadMe.lha        gfx/edit     5K+Visual Eng. - Registeration & Readme
VE-shadow.lha        gfx/edit     5K+Visual Eng. - Shadow v3.34
MakeWebPic.lha       gfx/misc    18K+ARexx-Packet to work with Pic-Archiv
akMPEG2.lha          gfx/show   122K+MPEG player for CyberGfx/AGA V3.01 (68k/
AMP.lha              gfx/show   246K+MPEG1/2, FLI/FLC, AVI, QT player for War
SoftCinema.lha       gfx/show   223K+Ultimate Movie Player (PPC)
Win95MapGB.lha       hard/drivr   8K+Win95 British keymap, CTRL+\ support.
APPE1_2.lha          hard/hack   82K+Use any PlayStation Pad in your Amiga
A4KTower.lha         hard/misc  608K+How to towerise your A4K easily! 
AmiOS35amp.lha       misc/emu    20K+Skin for WinAMP with the Amiga-look
Electrostatic.lha    misc/emu   101K+Atari 2600 emulator/translator. V2.1
warpsnes.lha         misc/emu   359K+SNES Emulator for PowerPC (WarpUP) V4.1
imdbDiff990910.lha   misc/imdb  2.0M+Diffs for the Internet MovieDatabase
TotalCalc1_23.lha    misc/math   48K+Calculator with interesting features
distract.lha         mods/k4k   313K+"Distracted" trance-song by Kure/RNO^WPZ
martys.lha           mods/k4k   262K+"Martysbear" trance-song by Kure/RNO^WPZ
rNO-L004.lha         mods/misc  792K+RNO-LABEL release nO.4
RussianONE.lha       mods/symph 1.3M+Simphonie music module
CDMix10demo.lha      mus/edit    11K+Prog to mix a number of CDDA files. DEMO
sox-12.16-base.lha   mus/edit   267K+Multiformat sound converter (src)
sox-12.16-bin.lha    mus/edit   194K+Multiformat sound converter (bin)
ataruita.lha         mus/midi    20K+Urusei Yatsura italian song
divert12.lha         mus/midi    56K+Divertimento12, GM song by Stefano Regat
divert3.lha          mus/midi    31K+Divertimento3, GM song by Stefano Regatt
felicida.lha         mus/midi    19K+Felicidad, GM song by Stefano Regattin
AmigaOS_bootpi.lha   pix/boot   301K+AmigaOS - BootPicture and cgxbootpic.lib
A4000T_Kosh.jpg      pix/wb     208K+K.O.S.H. Workbench in 16bit
Printout.lha         text/print  15K+Print Zweckform Labels NO. 4738/4739
appxtrakt.lha        util/arc    30K+Little tool to extract Lha,Lzx & Zip fil
Archiver.lha         util/arc   275K+A very good MUIGui for Lha, Lzx...etc.V2
AutoExt.lha          util/arc     3K+Auto Extract Archives (Lzx, Lha, Rar...)
1TouchMac2.lha       util/boot   99K+Boot others startup files with mouse
alba.lha             util/boot   45K+Lock your Amiga with a password 
Rainboot2_67.lha     util/boot  997K+The Ultimate Multimedia Boot v2.67
MirrorCopy.lha       util/cli    20K+Create/maintain exact copy of dir (V1.3)
VersCheck.lha        util/cli   414K+Check your libs,MUI,devs,dtypes,classes,
muitoolkit.lha       util/libs   42K+1.0 - The MUI Toolkit library (FREE)
PortugueseAcce.lha   util/libs    2K+Portuguese accent for translator lib.
bprefs.lha           util/misc   42K+MUI Preference program for Birdie [1.31]
ProPassWord.lha      util/misc  163K+PPW is a FOF securty System 0.17b2
TNM.lha              util/misc   19K+MUI Make ThumbNails and HTML files.
FWCalendar.lha       util/rexx  108K+THE calendar creator for FW & Pagestream
Scion2html.lha       util/rexx   32K+WWW browser HTML's from Scion Genealogy 
AlarmClock.lha       util/time    9K+Alarms by playing a MP3 at a specified t
Millenium.lha        util/time    8K+Millenium-Countdown
vhtvb220.lha         util/virus  62K+Version 2.20 of Virus_Checker II brainfi
VirusExecutor.lha    util/virus 117K+VirusExecutor v1.83
count.lha            util/wb     15K+Recursivly counts the size of files/dirs
JoyTest1_04.lha      util/wb     24K+Test operation of joystick

DiskOrg.lha          biz/dbase   67K+DiskOrg - A disk cataloguer (with asm so
VorwahlenGUI.lha     biz/dbase  167K+Search MUIGUI for german Telephone Codes
TCom150bDEMO.lha     biz/demo    63K+An Amiga order program, (COMMESSE ITALIA
TFat261bDEMO.lha     biz/demo    89K+An Amiga Invoice program, (FATTURE ITALI
ExtremeDemo.lha      biz/dkg    149K+DTV Realtime Effects Generator v1.50 (DE
xtm-FogRipple.lha    biz/dkg    113K+Additional texture for Extreme
xtm-liver.lha        biz/dkg    115K+Additional texture for Extreme
xtm-TheMatrix.lha    biz/dkg    118K+Additional texture for Extreme
CutNPaste34.lha      biz/dopus   37K+Adds Cut'n'Paste to DOpus5.5+ (many new 
GDTrash.lha          biz/dopus   41K+Win95 recycle bin for Dopus5 MagII rev2
AE30-nederlnds.lha   biz/haage   13K+ArtEffect 3.0 - Nederlands locale
StarAm_Plan.lha      biz/misc   798K+Spreadsheet, V2.2b,OS 3.0+, 68000 CPU
StarAm_Plan881.lha   biz/misc   800K+Spreadsheet, V2.2b,OS 3.0+, needs FPU
PGSUniFilter17.lha   biz/patch  254K+V1.7 PageStream V3.x/V4.x Gfx Import Fil
fwml9908.lha         biz/swood   28K+Messages about FW during August 1999
YAM20_italiano.lha   comm/mail   20K+Updated italian YAM 2.0 catalog
yamexpansion.lha     comm/mail  184K+V2.5 handles recent emails with YAM 2.0 
yamexpDEU.lha        comm/mail    4K+Fix german catalog for YamExpansion V2.5
KewlCaller.lha       comm/maxs   52K+Display last xx callers for MaxsBBS.
AmTelnet_HU.lha      comm/misc    5K+Unofficial hungarian locale for AmTelnet
MM_ChkMsgDate.lha    comm/mmgr    6K+Fixes message dates >31 Dec 1999 in Mail
AmiSSL_info.lha      comm/net     2K+Information on AmiSSL, SSL package for A
paradise.lha         comm/net    32K+Amiga<->Pc trans. via parallel. v0.53b
nc_update.lha        comm/news   98K+Offline Newsreader Version 1.16 (MUI)
newscoaster.lha      comm/news  245K+Offline Newsreader Version 1.16 (MUI)
iTranslate.lha       comm/tcp    54K+Internet language translation program
SimpleFTP.lha        comm/tcp    93K+SimpleFTP - New and easy to use FTP clie
TestUMS1_1.lha       comm/ums     6K+Test the UMS message base
AWebResume.lha       comm/www    61K+Integrate FTP and HTTP resume support in
gng.lha              comm/www   746K+GNU Internet mirroring tool with interfa
HTTPResume_Cat.lha   comm/www     3K+Catalan localization for HTTPResume v1.7
HTTPResume_Ser.lha   comm/www    23K+Serbian localization for HTTPResume v1.7
HTTPResume_Sp.lha    comm/www     2K+Spanish translation for HTTPResume v1.7 
Lynx283dev8.lha      comm/www   927K+Powerful WEB Browser (HTTP,FTP,NEWS...)
mapPlugv141.lha      comm/www    78K+HTML client side image map editor v1.41
RandAnim.lha         comm/www    83K+Start any browser with random xfer anim 
tablePlugv10.lha     comm/www    67K+An HTML image cataloguer v1.0
urlx.lha             comm/www    68K+V1.02 Extract URL's from any file+sort++
dcs-klnnfp.lha       demo/aga   2.4M+DCS demo "Klone" (NOFPU-version)
FLP-TTD.lha          demo/aga   3.4M+"TTD". Floppy 1st at APOCALYPSE 99'
MWI-Utopia.lha       demo/aga   1.3M+"Utopia" by Madwizards - 3rd at Apocalyp
tucolor.lha          demo/aga   1.3M+Tucolor by Vertical SDC
wpz-frozen19.lha     demo/aga   847K+Frozen#19 - Apocalypse Party Edition
9999.lha             demo/euro  311K+Short and Cheap Anim Thing
Anime-X.lha          demo/mag   762K+H-Anime disk-mag from Carnage
Grapevine1-4.lha     demo/mag   635K+LSD Grapevine diskmag, issues 1-4
PureBasic.lha        dev/basic  317K+V1.00 - Brand new powerful programming l
ADOSLib.lha          dev/c       16K+Additional DOS Lib for vbcc
MEMLib.lha           dev/c       71K+Port of MEM.Lib for vbcc
MMULib.lha           dev/c       24K+Vbcc stubs linklib for mmu.library
PMM.lha              dev/c      2.1M+Project-Make-Manager (PMM) for vbcc
REQUESTLib.lha       dev/c      154K+Requester Lib for vbcc
STRINGLib.lha        dev/c       81K+Many stringfunctions (linklib for vbcc)
SUPRALib.lha         dev/c      106K+Port of SUPRA linklib for vbcc
TRSaferPtch.lha      dev/debug   14K+Safer Setfunctions Debug Tools
2b_CreativE.lha      dev/e       68K+New AmigaE compiler
AE_ToolBar.lha       dev/e        9K+AmigaE modules: ToolBar.mcc & InfoText.m
jikes-diffs.lha      dev/lang    12K+IBM's fast Java compiler, v1.02 (diffs)
jikes.lha            dev/lang   564K+IBM's fast Java compiler, v1.02 (source)
jikes000.lha         dev/lang   542K+Fast Java compiler, v1.02 (68000 binary)
jikes020-060.lha     dev/lang   537K+Fast Java compiler,v1.02 (68020-060,FPU)
jlint.lha            dev/lang   421K+Lint for Java. Source included.
perl5_man.lha        dev/lang   319K+Perl 5 manual pages (plaintext)
ARP_13dev.lha        dev/misc   124K+ARP developer kit
TransCat120.lha      dev/misc   128K+MUI Editor Catalog (.cd .ct)
HunkFunc.lha         dev/moni    13K+V1.5 display executable file structure
Abackup_spa.lha      disk/bakup   7K+Spanish translation for ABackup 5.20
2b_InBoot.lha        disk/misc   49K+Very useful BootBlock utility.
Diskspace.lha        disk/misc   47K+Free Space on Disk via 3-D Diagram
Ni_diskspace.lha     disk/misc   49K+Free Space on Disk via 3-D Diagram
Mira99.txt           docs/anno    6K+Mira Amiga99 ParTy invitation
DVBContrdocpdf.lha   docs/help  982K+DVBControl V1.12 german documentation in
attitude.lha         docs/hyper  56K+WWF attitude faq (Amigaguide)
CRUS_Gde.lha         docs/hyper   6K+Babylon 5: Crusade Episode Guide (13a)
CHTM0999.lha         docs/lists  81K+CoNnEcTiOnS: September 1999 - UK BBS Sce
ClassesGuide.lha     docs/lists  86K+A Guide of Amiga custom BOOPSI classes. 
CNCT0999.lha         docs/lists  41K+CoNnEcTiOnS: September 1999 - UK BBS Sce
Aakt0999HTML.lha     docs/mags  372K+AMIGA aktuell - German infotainment maga
Mags_index.lha       docs/mags   45K+TEXT indices of magazine articles
NoCover62.lha        docs/mags  2.6M+Great german onlinemag
NoCover63.lha        docs/mags  2.2M+Great german onlinemag
NoCover64.lha        docs/mags  1.6M+Great german onlinemag
NoCover65.lha        docs/mags  1.9M+Great german onlinemag
NoCover67.lha        docs/mags  2.4M+Great german onlinemag
EuroChamp.lha        docs/misc   24K+Statistics of soccer Euro Champs '60-'96
F1Champ.lha          docs/misc   35K+Statistics of Formula One '50-'99
F1Results.lha        docs/misc   12K+Formula 1 results 1994-1997 (German)
PetroSaku99.txt      docs/misc    4K+Transcript of Petro's speech to Saku99
TeRmOz.IRC.lha       docs/misc   43K+Polish FAQ about IRC and bots.
thewholetruth.lha    docs/misc    2K+The whole truth about Bill G.
WorldCup.lha         docs/misc  110K+Statistics of soccer World Cups '30-'98
pfs3.txt             docs/rview  21K+REVIEW: Professional File System 3 v5.1
BattleDuel.lha       game/2play 1.8M+The *ULTIMATE* artillery game V1.7.105
Mortar.lha           game/2play 566K+Multiplayer artillery game
F1GP_1999.lha        game/data    9K+1999 F1 season data for F1GP-Ed (12 Sept
FreeCell300.lha      game/data    8K+Solutions for FreeCell 251 to 300 by D.H
MaP_Music2.lha       game/data  1.2M+New cardset for MarryAmPic
SWOSFin.lha          game/data    5K+Finnish league datafile for SWOS
UltimLnds.lha        game/demo   71K+Great Ultima clone preview
AD_Dsolutions.lha    game/hint  322K+Walkthroughes of old AD&D SSI Games
RSE-WDS.lha          game/hint   36K+Complete WastedDreams Solution (english)
CrazySue.lha         game/jump  304K+Classic PD platform game
CrazySueII.lha       game/jump  448K+Sequel to classic PD platform game
WormWars.lha         game/misc  580K+WormWars 4.3: Advanced snake game
fu_psv_upd-SFX.lha   game/patch 6.0M+Patch to football management game (PL)
fu_psv_upd.lha       game/patch 1.9M+Patch to football management game (PL)
lemmingshd.lha       game/patch  34K+HD Installer for Lemmings *9 VERSIONS* V
malicemod.lha        game/patch 221K+Malice (Quake TC) mod - improves fps
skidmarks2hd.lha     game/patch 615K+HD-Installer for Skidmarks 2
WHDArmourGeddn.lha   game/patch  30K+HD Installer for Armour-Geddon
LegendElvesUpd.lha   game/role  163K+Legend of the Elves v1.5 Update
LegendofElves.lha    game/role  938K+Graphic Adv. (like Monkey Island) v1.5
YAGAC.lha            game/role  197K+Graphic adventure creator (Balrog Soft)
zangband.lha         game/role  1.1M+Zangband 2.2.6c - Roguelike solo RPG
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From:     Chris Hodges hodges@informatik.tu-muenchen.de
To:       Petra Struck petra.struck@online-club.de
Date:     Wed, 15 Sep 1999 16:50:10 +0100
Subject:  Glosse

An die Amiga Gemeinde

Danke für Eure jahrelange Unterstützung und Loyalität gegenüber Amiga. Aber
nun  bin  ich  hier  um  Euch  ein  für  alle  mal klarzumachen, daß in der
Industrie kein Platz für den "Geist des Amigas" ist.

In den letzten paar  Wochen  haben  tausende  eMails  und  Nachrichten  von
blinden  Lemmingen  meine  In-Box  verstopft, die sich viel zu viele Sorgen
über die Zukunft des Amiga machen, weil sie die Geschehnisse bei Amiga Inc.
vielleicht  doch  richtig  zu  deuten wissen. Ich war sichtlich genervt und
habe diese Mails natürlich ungelesen  gelöscht.  Eure  Meinung  ist  völlig
irrelevant, der Pfad ist doch sowieso schon längst eingeschlagen.

Fakt ist... um J.M. Straczynski zu zitieren "Viel schwerwiegender  als  der
Tod  der körperlichen Materie, ist der Tod der Hoffung, der Tod der Träume.
Und vor dieser Gefahr dürfen wir niemals kapitulieren." In dieser  Hinsicht
sind  die  Amigianer tatsächlich nicht tot zu kriegen -- nein im Gegenteil:
Gerade nach meinen vernichtendem Executive Update  scheint  sich  mehr  und
mehr Energie in Projekten wie AQUA/Amino oder Phoenix zu konzentrieren. Ich
empfinde das mehr als verwirrend, habe ich ja noch nie einen Amiga besessen
oder damit gearbeitet.

Beim Amiga ging es -- und da müßt ihr  mir  zustimmen  --  niemals  um  ein
Computersystem.  Es  ging  nicht darum, daß das Arbeiten am Amiga effizient
war und Spaß gemacht hat. Nein, die Amiga-Gemeinde  war  schon  immer  eine
Gruppe  illusionierter, präpubertärer Fratzen, die eigentlich nur aus Trotz
immer wieder behauptet hatte,  "Mein  Computer  ist  besser  als  deiner!".
Amiga-User  hofften,  die  Welt  zu  verbessern. Tja, leider kommt ihnen da
immer wieder was  in  die  Quere,  oder?  Warum?  Weil  der  Amiga  niemals
allgegenwärtig wurde.

Das werde  ich  jetzt  ändern.  Der  Amiga  wird  in  Zukunft  als  Plug-In
existieren.  Ja,  ich  weiß, vielleicht glaubt ihr vor ein paar Wochen noch
andere Pläne gelesen zu haben, keine Angst, das waren nur  Halluzinationen.
Ich  selbst habe nie diese Pläne gelesen.

Kein OS mehr, keine Hardware, man  braucht  nichts  selbst  zu  entwickeln,
nein,  man  wird  in  Zukunft  die Gurumeditationen sogar auf Digital-Uhren
bekommen können! Ich  persönlich  bin  schon  sehr  begeistert!  Amiga  als
Applikation in jeder Mikrowelle. "Amiga for Windows"... denkt darüber nach.

Amiga und sein revolutionärer Geister verdienen nichts besseres als das. Es
ist ein neuer Mega-Trend und Amiga wird an vorderster Front dieser nächsten
großen  Kampfeinheit  in  der  Computergeschichte   stehen   --   und   von
verräterischen  Söldnern  wie  mir  erschossen  werden. Dafür haben wir uns
entschieden,  als  wir  von  einer  ziemlich  großen   Firma   eine   nicht
unerhebliche Bestechungssumme kassiert haben.

Also: Lang lebe Amiga, aber  wenn  Ihr  denkt,  daß  derjenige,  der  Amiga
besitzt,  ihn  auch  vernichten kann, dann habt ihr die Vergangenheit nicht
verstanden. Bei Amiga Inc. geht es  um  einen  profitableren  Weg.  In  den
kommenden  Monaten,  versprochen, werden wir Euch über Fortschritte bei der
Zerstörung des leblosen Amiga-Körpers auf dem Laufenden  halten,  und  wenn
Ihr  uns nicht weiter unterstützen wollt: bei Gateway kann man auf die alte
Userbasis verzichten -- ein paar neue Dumme werden schon drauf reinfallen.

Amiga Inc. kann die Industrie nicht revolutionieren und die Welt verändern.
Dazu braucht es Visionäre.

Lang lebe Amiga Inc.,

Thomas J. Schmidt,
President & C.E.O.
---------

Chris Hodges, 15. September 1999

*********************


From:     Wolfgang Czepan czepan@laura.soem.uunet.de
To:       Petra Struck petra.struck@online-club.de
Date:     Wed, 15 Sep 1999 00:51:52 +0200

"Als Antwort auf einen Forumsbeitrag: ...
Irgendwer muß ja den ersten Amiga gekauft haben..."

Ich geb`s ja zu...
Ich war`s...,
der damals den ersten Amiga gekauft hat...
Wenn ich gewußt hätte, was ich damit anrichte, hätte ich es sicher
nicht getan, ich schwör`s! Beim Leben meiner ersten Festplatte :-))

Fazit: Gelernt und nie vergessen:

Kaufe nie als erster ein Produkt, zwischen 10 und 100 tausend oder
noch mehr könnten Dir folgen und anschließend nicht beschreibare
Leiden erdulden müssen! Kann man das verantworten? Ich sage nein!

Unendliches Leid habe ich über tausende und abertausende gebracht,
von denen ich nicht mal die Hälfte kenne. Seit Jahren treu zur Fahne
stehend, haben sie Ozeane an Tränen durchquert, bis zuletzt immer
wieder am Honig der Hoffnung genippt... vor allem aber eins:
Sich zu nicht belehrbaren Fanatikern entwickelt, die emotional nur
noch in der Lage sind, extreme Höhen oder Tiefen zu erleben.
"Jim Collas, tritt zurück!" (Quelle: Forum Funtime-world)
"Jim Collas, komm zurück!" (Quelle: Forum AC)

Es ist nicht zu fassen:
Inzwischen werden sogar Smileys "gedeutet"!

Fehlt bloß noch, daß jemand die Ladezeit der AI-Homepage interpretiert,
aber das kommt auch noch, wetten?

What happened?

Alsooo:

Ein Computer, der laut Meinung der "Gemeinde" ("Amiga=Gott"), sowieso
kein Amiga mehr gewesen sein würde, wird nicht gebaut (oder vielleicht
nicht gebaut oder er hätte sowieso soo nicht gebaut werden sollen oder
können).

Was passiert?
Die gleiche Gemeinde erleidet kollektiv akute Diarrhoe und fühlt sich
erneut verraten (wieso eigentlich erneut?; Den Walker wollte auch
keiner haben).

Die Gemeinde wird - nach ihrem eigenen Selbstverständnis - sowieso
ständig verraten (und verkauft, hihi).
Sie braucht das auch, mindestens, um ihre Diskussionsforen zu füllen,
weil sonst die Ladezeiten gewaltig runtergingen...
Sie braucht es, weil am Computerhimmel ja immer der schreckliche
Wintel-Gott, der den Amiga-Gott zu seinem persönlichen Feind erklärt
hat, droht. Dem "Amirage-Gott", der seit Neuestem seine Kreise zieht,
mag der eine Teil noch nicht so recht trauen... was ihm den Haß des
anderen Teils einbringt, der genau in diesem den neuen Heilsbringer
sieht :-)

Der "Boxer-Gott" verspricht da nur wenig Abhilfe, da er nicht in
der Lage ist, Armageddon zu gewinnen. Ebensowenig wie der
"IWIN-Gott". Da hilft es auch wenig, wenn "AI-Gott" plötzlich als
Teufel "erkannt" wird. Die Gemeinde leidet Höllenqualen (sic!).

Was soll die Gemeinde machen?

Sie will sich ihren eigenen Gott schaffen. Klasse.

Nun gibt es fürchterlich wenig brauchbare (wenn überhaupt eine)
Definitionen von "Gott". Wollte man die noch am meisten plausiblen
heranziehen (und das sind keine Definitionen), so ergibt sich als
eine der Quintessenzen: "Gott kann Sachen, die wir nicht können".
Mithin will die Gemeinde ihren "Gott" selber schaffen, was aber
à priori nicht möglich ist; niemand kann das Ideal verkörpern,
woran er glaubt. Die Gemeinde begeht den Fehler, zu denken (?),
sich mit dem "spirit of amiga" zu identifizieren, genüge, selbst
"spirit" zu werden. Der "spirit" lebt in der Gemeinde, das ist wahr,
aber die Gemeinde ist nicht der "spirit" (genausowenig wie ich
Beethovens 9te bin).

Die Gemeinde ist, leicht nachzuweisen, manisch depressiv.
Beweis: Sämtliche Foren, die von Gefühlsausbrüchen überquellen.
Onkel Sigmund hätt` sich ge"freud".

Beim Lesen des Ac-Forums - neulich - tippte mir mein Alter Ego auf
die virtuelle Schulter und fragte: "Wovon redet Ihr da eigentlich?
Von Computern? Ich dachte immer, die sollen das Leben erleichtern und
nicht zur Hölle machen?" Stimmt wohl.

Ich, für meinen Teil, werde in Zukunft sehr darauf achten, nie wieder
etwas als Erster zu kaufen; DAS tu ich mir nicht nochmal an!

Wolfgang Czepan

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Editor's Thoughts and Introduction:

 We present the much anticipated statement from the new President of
Amiga below. Frankly, we're not sure what to make of it and will
withhold most of our comments for a few days to think it over. Our
first thought, in all honesty, is a question: if the Amiga isn't a
"box" or an operating system, what, exactly, is left? Clearly, this
statement tells us there will not be a computer from Amiga. We never
expected them to make many, but we did expect them at least to control
hardware specs for a new machine, based on recent developments. An
Internet Appliance server for the home if nothing else. Also, we
expected the same control for an operating system, not just something
to run on top of other operating systems (Windoze? NT? Mac? Solaris?)
also based on recent developments. Our second thought is another
question: what is the cost of a good Dell computer running Linux? Our
third thought: are we being too hasty in seeing only negatives here?
Is there a real vision spelled out here which could, in fact, be the
next real Amiga? That IS a possibility ... I think ...
 We like to give everyone a fair chance. So, you'll get a real
editorial in the near future, after we digest this, but not tonight.
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            T H E   P R E S I D E N T   S P E A K S . . .

September 14, 1999


TO: THE AMIGA COMMUNITY

 Thanks for your notes and comments about our plans for Amiga. In the
past couple weeks, we've received hundreds -- if not thousands -- of
emails and messages from loyal Amigans worldwide, many of you
expressing a concern about Amiga's future based on recent reports in
the media and in numerous chat rooms. I am so impressed with the
spirit and passion of this great community and I wanted to make sure I
told you that.

 The fact is... to borrow from Mark Twain... the reports of Amiga's
death have been greatly exaggerated. To that end, I wanted to provide
a little more detail about our plans for Amiga... both as a product
and as a company, and hopefully clear up any confusion that exists.

 First, I hope you'd agree that Amiga was never about a box. It was
never about an operating system either. Sure those things were part of
what made the original Amiga great, but at its heart, Amiga was simply
about a better way. Amiga was ahead of its time. Amiga promised to
change the world. It ran against conventional wisdom and was better
than anything out there at the time. In fact, we could all argue that
it's still better than anything out there.

 The ideals and spirit of that original Amiga are alive and well
today. But to limit Amiga to just one box, one product, one OS, is to
keep Amiga from ever seeing its full potential. Think about it.... The
original Amiga never did really reach its full potential despite its
technical advantages and its cost and ease of use advantages. Why?
Because it never became ubiquitous. The company's early vision was
probably too limited for the vast potential that Amiga offered.

 The original Amiga was all about multi-media, so why not have Amiga
running on every type of device imaginable, on top of every other OS
out there? That's the beauty of Amiga and where we are as an industry.
We're in the midst of a revolution unlike anything the world has seen,
and Amiga has never been better positioned to change that world and
make a bigger impact. Limiting Amiga to just one box and one OS at
this point would be like offering the world a better horse and
carriage at the dawn of the automotive age. Amiga and its
revolutionary spirit deserve better than that. Amiga is going to
produce software technology that will enable Internet services on an
emerging category of products commonly referred to as "Information
Appliances". It is an exciting new mega trend in the industry and we
are excited about being at the forefront of this next great wave in
computing history. In addition, we have decided to work with business
partners who will deliver our software technology on their systems,
rather than enter the hardware business directly.

 So long live Amiga, but if you think that Amiga was just a box,
you've missed the point. Amiga is about a better way. In the coming
weeks and months, we promise to keep you posted on progress against
our plans for Amiga, and we thank you for your continued support.
Let's work together to enable Amiga to revolutionize the industry and
change the world!

Long live Amiga,


Thomas J. Schmidt
President & C.E.O.
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14 Sept., 1999

              == THE PHOENIX PLATFORM CONSORTIUM ==

 We are pleased to announce the acceptance of provisional charter for
the Phoenix Platform Consortium.

 Phoenix signatories believe it is time to place our destiny back in
the hands of folks who understand what the Amiga is all about. You
will notice members of the original Jay Miner team within our ranks.

 Unlike other new entities we will not field questions from
newsgroups, mailing lists, or in email, nor will we be erecting a
marketing facade to false hopes. Results and honest direction are our
mandate.

 The Phoenix Platform Consortium will assume responsibility for aid
and recommendation for reference platforms for the Amiga users who
wish to upgrade their present Amigas, as we establish an open
migration path to a new platform. That platform will in spirit and in
feel be a new Amiga experience while incorporating and surpassing the
features found on the desktop elsewhere today.

 More information will be posted when we have facts to present. Please
do NOT email the participants in curiosity. We ask for your patience
in this matter. Please respect the wishes of the participants named
below. There is much to do and we have just begun.

 As information becomes available it will be posted on mailing lists,
newsgroups, and at the following website: http://owlnet.net/phoenix/
which will be up shortly. This announcement is freely repostable.

 Thanks, from the Phoenix Platform Consortium, currently:

    Alan Crandall       JMS
    Alan Swithenbank    Stanford Comp Systems Lab
    Albert Bailey       Flying Mice
    Andy Finkel         Met@box
    Aron Digulla        AROS
    Bart G Colbert      BG Colbert
    Berardino Baratta   MetroWerks
    Bill Bull           QNX
    Bill McEwen         Amino
    Bohdan Lechnowsky   REBOL
    Bruce Ellsworth     AmiTrace/ACSVideo
    Carl Sassenrath     REBOL
    Christian Kemp      ANN
    Clash Bowley        Flying Mice
    Dan Dodge           QNX
    Daryl Low           QNX Internship
    Dave Cook           GuruMeditationError
    Dave Haynie         Met@box
    dinglis             QNX
    Don Cox             Don Cox Computer Productions
    Drew S Tarmey       IAT Manufacturing
    Dr Greg Perry       GPSoftware
    Ed MacKenty         MacKenty Software Services
    Eric Herget         Ki Networks
    Fleecy Moss         Amino
    Frank Friesacher    QNX
    Fred Wright         The Wright Solution
    Gary Peake          Team AMIGA/OwlNet
    Geert Bevin         Thunderstorms/The Leaf
    Giorgio Gomelsky    JMS
    Glenn Davidson      Cloud Media
    G'o'tz Ohnesorge
    greenboy            Phoenix
    Hal Greenlee        HardDrivers
    Holger Kruse        Nordic Global
    Igor Kovalenko      Motorola iDEN
    Joanne Dow          Wizardess Designs
    Joe Gulizia         SCOLA
    Johan Rönnblom
    John Shepard
    Kevin Lowe          BrainDrops
    Kevin Tiernan       Elfnet
    Marc Albrecht       A.C.T.
    Mario Charest       Zinformatic
    Mario Saitti        Phoenix
    Marko Seppänen      Visual Engineer
    Martin McKenzie     CADTech
    Matt Sealey         U of Leicester
    Michael Battilana   Cloanto
    Mick Tinker         Access
    Odd H Sandvick
    Olaf Barthel        logical line GmbH
    Paul Lesurf         Blittersoft
    Paul May            Phoenix
    Paul Nolan          Paul Nolan Ltd
    Ray Akey            HMetalsoft/ZenMetal
    RJ Mical            Mical.org
    Robert Krten        PARSE/Cisco
    Ron Liechty         MetroWerks
    Rudi Chiarito       Magrathea Development
    Samuel A Falvo II   Dolphin
    Shaun Sauve         QNX
    Stephane Desrosiers
    Stephen Jones       Siamese Systems
    Steve Tomkins       QNX
    Tobias Abt          Picasso 96
    Vegard Berget
    Wolf Dietrich       phase 5


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From:             Martin Baute solar@baud.de
To:               team@amiga-news.de
Date:             Tue, 14 Sep 1999 20:12:43 +0200
Subject:          Open Letter to Tom Schmidt
Voller Name:      Martin Baute
Homepage:         http://www.baud.de/public/members/solar.html

Dear Sir,

we are the Amiga community. We are a community of people brought together
by a very different kind of computing, which survived despite the gravest
of circumstances, beyond bancrupty, beyond despair, beyond obsoletion.

The community survived because there was hope, and little alternative.

We look at the market of home, personal, and office computing, and we see
bloated, inefficient, unreliable systems that offer little "feeling" to
the power user, and much irritation to the beginner.

So we dared to hope, that one day there would be a computing alternative
available again to the masses, one that made computing fun again for
everyone, not only for the elusive few who actually like to modify arcane
registry entries or .rc lines.

And our hopes, for long, and sometimes very dark years, were on the brand
named "Amiga", because this brand - rather, the philosophy and spirit it
stood for - embodied what we liked in computing.

We have seen many changes at the helm, even more changes in direction.

And every time again, ever since EsCom times up to the latest ongoings at
Amiga Inc., whenever there was a change at helm or a change in direction,
we feared.

Our fear always was the same. Will there be an Amiga computer we can
buy, to sit on our desks at home or in the office?

There has always been talk about Set-Top-Boxes. In more recent times,
there is talk about "information appliances".

But what the community anxiously waits for, always has waited for when
the winds of change were blowing, is not about Set-Top-Boxes, not about
"information appliances". I do not want to critizise, to the contrary.
There are evolving markets out there waiting to be explored, and it is
a good feeling that Amiga might be among the spearhead of explorers to
this market.

However, for us, the existing, living, starving community scattered all
around the world, for the distributors, developers, vendors, users, for
us, it is the desktop we most anxiously wait for.

Yes, there certainly is a mass market for Set-Top-Boxes and information
appliances, and the Amiga Inc. concept for a pervasive home network is
a nice one for sure. But all this is not what the brand "Amiga" promises
to us.

To make a long story short, to ask the question so vital for motivation,
faith, and hope for many of us, I ask you:



- Do the plans at Amiga Inc., which you told us will be followed
  through, still include a home/personal computer product range similar
  or at least alike to the "Multimedia Convergence Computer" previously
  presented by Amiga Inc.?
  Manufactured by Amiga Inc. itself, or by third party manufacturers?

  (Means, will we see hardware as revolutionary as your software
  technology, or will we share the fate of BeOS, fine OS without
  own plattform?)

- And will it be presented anywhere near to the original time scale
  (1st quarter 2000)?



A question so simple, but of utmost importance for those who look at
Amiga Inc. today. Those looking at Amiga tomorrow might be satisfied
by Set-Top-Boxes and "information appliances".

We are not. Scatter our fears.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

With kindest regards,
--
    Martin Baute          /// Amiga A1200 Towerhawk - PowerPC 603e / MC68060
 => solar@baud.de <=     /// Newsmaster - English:  http://www.amiga-news.de
Member of Team AMIGA \\\/// Member of the Bielefeld Amiga Users & Developers
100% Microsoft free!  \XX/ Maintainer of Version Watch: http://www.vwatch.de

Amiga - The Last Line of Defense.
-- www.baud.de



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From:        "B. van der Meer" b.vd.meer@worldonline.nl
To:          team@amiga-news.de
Date:        Tue, 14 Sep 1999 16:55:11 +0100

OS3.5 demonstration in the Benelux.

On saturday the 18th of september Dirk Harlaar of Haage & Partner
will give a demonstration of the new OS3.5 in Leeuwarden, located
in the Netherlands. Propably this will be the final salesversion.
This day will be organized by the AGGF and ComputerCity, the OS3.5
distributer in the Benelux.

Contact us at: amiga@worldonline.nl


The AGGF is the Amiga User Groep Friesland found in 1993.
Since january 1999 we publish a bimonthly paper-magazine called AmigaScene in
the dutch language.

AGGF webpage: http://www.fris.nl/~dkraus/AGGFINDEX.HTML
AmigaScene webpage: http://home.worldonline.nl/~amiga/


******


Os3.5 demonstratie bij the AGGF.

Zaterdag 18 september zal Dirk Harlaar van het Duitse Haage&Partner bij de
Amiga Gebruikers Groep Friesland
het nieuwe besturingssysteem OS3.5 komen demonstreren. Het is zelf
waarschijnlijk dat het hier om de
definitieve versie gaat, zoals dit op de markt gaat komen.
Deze dag wordt door de AGGF in samenwerking met ComputerCiy, de officiële
importeur, van OS3.5 georganiseerd.

De locatie is Clubhuis 'Welgelegen', W.Loréstraat 36 te Leeuwarden. Open
10:30-16:30.
Neem rustig je Amiga mee, maar bel ons dan wel even van te voren. tel.
0519-562288 (tussen 19:00 - 21:00 uur)
of email: amiga@worldonline.nl


De AGGF is de Amiga Gebruikers Groep Friesland en bestaat sinds 1993.
Vanaf januari 1999 geven wij de AmigaScene uit. Dit is een tweemaandelijkse
Amigablad met
artikelen over software en hardware en laatste nieuws.

AGGF internet adres: http://www.fris.nl/~dkraus/AGGFINDEX.HTML
AmigaScene internet adres: http://home.worldonline.nl/~amiga/


******
Thanks in advance.
Berend van der Meer.
AGGF/AmigaScene.

1. Phönix wird ein System aufstellen, das den "Classic" Amiga von Beginn an integriert. Es soll einen gangbaren Weg zu neuen Plattformen geben, die "Kompatiblität" zur bestehenden Hardware ist nicht nachgeschoben sondern Initialie
2. Phönix wird ein System aufstellen, das dank dem Neutrino Kern von Beginn an portierbar ist. Damit können sowohl PPC als auch Intel Plattformen grundsätzlich bedient werden. Eine Heirat mit irgendeinem MCC ist nicht notwendig - wohl aber möglich.
3. Phönix hat bereits jetzt, nach wenigen Tagen offizieller Existenz, fast alle wichtigen Amiga-Application-Entwickler sowie einige führende Hardware-Entwickler an Bord. Damit besteht ein kaum zu übertreffendes Know-How des "Amiga Spirit" (was immer das ist). Wenn hier von einer Wiedergeburt des Amiga gesprochen wird, dann von Leuten, die den heutigen Amiga bestimmend gestaltet haben - hier reden keine Manager, die sich die Materie anlesen müssen.
4. Phönix beheimatet genügend hochrangige Software-Entwickler, daß selbst auf einem komplett neuen System in vertretbarer Zeit reale Applikationen existieren können. Durch die Einbindung des "Classic" kann und soll der Kreis der Applikationen sogar maximiert werden.
5. Phönix stellt keine spinnerte Idee dar, deren gesamte Komponenten erst noch entwickelt werden müssen - denn die wesentlichen Bestandteile wie QNX (Neutrino), Rebol und andere existieren bereits und sind erfolgreich. Hier wird keine Phantasie beschrieben sondern Realität.
6. Phönix hat bereits Verbindungen zu führenden Hard- und Software-Herstellern geknüpft, um in engsten Zeitrahmen Ergebnisse präsentieren zu können. Die Namen der Firmen sind nicht wie anderswo "streng geheim" sondern in der Liste der Unterstützer eindeutig zu finden.

• keine Heirat mit irgendeiner begrenzten Plattform (wie Amiga Classic) sondern Verwendung eines existierenden, expandierenden und zukunftsfähigen Kernels von QNX
• ein Echtzeitsystem aus einer Hand ist mir lieber als das Compilat der Bemühungen von tausenden Entwicklern weltweit
• extrem enge Zeitrahmen zur Realisation von Ergebnissen (die Ankündigungen sind nicht erst Jahre später sondern in Wochen überprüfbar)
• keine Phantasie-Produkte sondern Verwendung existierender Technik wie QNX, Rebol, voraussichtlich ARTAS
• realistische Vorhaben "hinter den Kulissen", sprich: konkrete Pläne, die die Ergebnisse von Phönix voraussetzen

• die GeoWorld-Anleitung im HTML-Format
• ein neues Titelbild für GeoWorld zum downloaden
• Möglichkeit, den GeoWorld-Newsletter (Mailing-Liste) zu abonnieren